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Old 4th October 2013   #3901
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Spanish bus drivers >>>
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Old 4th October 2013   #3902
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24395592

Fairly brutal appraisal of Wiggo
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Old 4th October 2013   #3903
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ooof. Surprised he was that candid about it.
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Old 4th October 2013   #3904
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Yeah. I struggle to see Wiggins riding for Sky again.
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Old 4th October 2013   #3905
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Yeah I don't really see how they can carry him for another season.

It's pretty sad really. WTF is going on with him? It just seems like he doesn't give a toss about it all anymore - just wants a quiet life with his family.
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Old 4th October 2013   #3906
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It's pretty sad really. WTF is going on with him? It just seems like he doesn't give a toss about it all anymore - just wants a quiet life with his family.
Well, what's wrong with that? He's human, not some robot that's malfunctioning, or a horse that needs to be euthanised :/
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Old 4th October 2013   #3907
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Did I say there was anything wrong with that?
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Old 4th October 2013   #3908
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No, I suppose not. I just intepreted it as a judgement on the guy as if he should be putting Team Sky above his family and his mental well-being. It's a popular line of thinking, unhappily. Sorry for subscribing you to it in error :-)
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Old 4th October 2013   #3909
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Still the second best TT-er in the world, and maybe a lot closer to the best if his front wheel was on right. Maybe he was pissed off about that? Equally as likely he saw that Froome didn't stand a chance and he took the wise decision to climb off early.
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Old 5th October 2013   #3910
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^ This seems to have been missed through most of the discussion? Even if the body can recover from an effort like that in a couple of days, the idea that his mind would be fully in it, especially riding for someone else who hasn't exactly been a great team-mate in the past, and who in all honesty had sweet-FA chance of winning.

And with his stated desire to go back to the track, I'm not really surprised that his heart wasn't in a 170mile slog through the rain. And indeed, perhaps having something approaching a normal life, heaven forbid
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Old 5th October 2013   #3911
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i can't imagine what the world would look like having been one minute standing at a pinnacle of achievement that could have barely been imagined, with all the stress, effort and hardship endured to get there surrounding it, then within a year find yourself somehow written off in favour of the guy who for all intents and purposes has been the architect of a lot of stress and intrigue and made very public criticisms of you then be asked to be his bottle carrier.

Wiggo swallowed a lot of pride just to be there and has kept his own council for the most part, if he pulled out its because it was a bit of a fucking bad joke to begin with.

And no offence to Thomas, but why the hell was he road captain? If Cav couldn't keep his powder dry, and if they put all their eggs in the basket of trying to ride on the front for an over-confident Froome and it didn't work, it's kind of bullshit to point at Wiggo trying to preserve himself from skidding out in the rain and popping his collarbone again as a contribution to their failure.
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Old 5th October 2013   #3912
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well put!
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Old 5th October 2013   #3913
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public criticisms? I'd like to know more, missed that obviously
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Old 5th October 2013   #3914
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Enough of this shit, Tyler Farrar has won a mother fucking European race!
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Old 5th October 2013   #3916
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you're probably right Andy, I'll just look at the riders' actual racing and decide who I like. I liked Wiggo a lot in 2012.
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Old 5th October 2013   #3917
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i can't imagine what the world would look like having been one minute standing at a pinnacle of achievement that could have barely been imagined, with all the stress, effort and hardship endured to get there surrounding it, then within a year find yourself somehow written off in favour of the guy who for all intents and purposes has been the architect of a lot of stress and intrigue and made very public criticisms of you then be asked to be his bottle carrier.

Wiggo swallowed a lot of pride just to be there and has kept his own council for the most part, if he pulled out its because it was a bit of a fucking bad joke to begin with.

And no offence to Thomas, but why the hell was he road captain? If Cav couldn't keep his powder dry, and if they put all their eggs in the basket of trying to ride on the front for an over-confident Froome and it didn't work, it's kind of bullshit to point at Wiggo trying to preserve himself from skidding out in the rain and popping his collarbone again as a contribution to their failure.
You are mistaken. By dint of them having almost super-human they should also have super-human mental strength, sacrifice everything in search of approval from the Daily Mail regurgitating masses. You win a silver medal in the Worlds just after winning the Tour of Britain but he climbed off in the road race. Coward! Lazy cunt! Where's a bus when you need one? Lets chuck one of Britains greatest ever cyclist under it.

Of course if he had beaten Tony Martin in the ITT and got gold this wouldn't be being discussed. 'World's best TTer tired for road race....after giving everything and beating the worlds best Time triallers Sir Bradley Wiggins, multiple gold medal Olympian and TdF winner, was unable to give much more, after giving Britain so much already. Despite his best efforts, the rest of the British team couldn't match his heroic demolish of the world's best a few days before. The tired GB team, after delivering a second TdF winner in 2 years and being the top ranked trade team, toiled dogmatically but ultimately in vain, after such a long and successful season. A bridge too far? Perhaps, but after so much success, it is churlish indeed to condemn one poor performance in the midst of so much brilliance.'
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Old 5th October 2013   #3918
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Totally agree, though personally I would rather have seen some young lions with no hope in hell of winning giving it everything and failing miserably, than the entire GB team bailing for whatever reason. They might have done the smart (the computer says no) kinda thing quitting, but at the time I certainly didn't find it particularly dignified. If you commit to the team, in this case representing team GB competing at the world championships, in my humble opinion you commit to give it one hundred percent or not at all.
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Old 6th October 2013   #3919
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Lombardia feeds up soon:
http://www.cyclingfans.com/il-lombardia/live
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Old 6th October 2013   #3920
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Enough of this shit, Tyler Farrar has won a mother fucking European race!
No pictures? Don't believe you Andy.
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Old 6th October 2013   #3921
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Humbling to see the last ever useless Euskatel crash in the rain earlier #carrotdown
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Old 6th October 2013   #3922
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Enough of this shit, Tyler Farrar has won a mother fucking European race!

3 teams fold and Farrar gets another contract??
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Old 7th October 2013   #3923
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He really MUST have pictures of Vaughters hanging out the back of a sheep or something.
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Old 7th October 2013   #3924
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Tour of Almaty. I saw it.

Our Sky vs. OGE bet is tied heading into Tour of Beijing. #anticlimax
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Old 7th October 2013   #3925
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How can it be that close? Do you get 5 points for each Orica win whilst your colleague gets 1 point for every Sky win?
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Old 7th October 2013   #3926
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It's a complicated process involving a pre-determined points system. Otherwise it would be stupid comparing a team that are after GC wins versus a one-day/sprint team.
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Old 7th October 2013   #3927
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Good to see Purito win, a rider I really like, wish I could be more confident about him though, but then that goes for all of them. A fitting revenge on Valverde to boot.
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Old 7th October 2013   #3928
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Confidence being a loaded term here.. Stay away from the clinic, Jimmy.
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Old 7th October 2013   #3929
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I love watching Purito attack - one of the few genuinely exciting climbers
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Old 7th October 2013   #3930
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It's less the clinic and more a top Spanish rider riding for Katusha

But he's a top character and sensation to watch, really rides with a combination of his balls and his heart. Brilliantly timed attack and once he was away it was won, as the three chasers either couldn't work together to chase him down or simply didn't want to.
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Old 7th October 2013   #3931
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Cross post but there's a refund process for Kimmage Fund donors some might be interested in

http://kimmagefundrefund.wordpress.com/
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Old 7th October 2013   #3932
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Stannard, Gee and Taylor Phinney have some spare tickets for their box @ Jay-Z on Thursday at 02

https://twitter.com/CadencePerform/s...92603886366720
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Old 8th October 2013   #3933
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Chris Horner is having an extended rant at the injustices of the world on twitter. Check it out by following @hornerakg
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Old 8th October 2013   #3934
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Chris Horner is having an extended rant at the injustices of the world on twitter. Check it out by following @hornerakg
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/157/234/99124221did_not_read.gif
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Old 8th October 2013   #3935
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No-one else read this in the last 24 hours? http://inrng.com/2013/10/ucis-2020-vision/

Pretty interesting. Would entail a fairly massive shakeup of professional cycling.. and probably quite a large number of people losing jobs. It seems like the aim is to reduce the cost of running a team, whilst making the sport more appealing to global sponsors - I have the feeling is that riders wages will just go up and any absorb any savings.
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Old 8th October 2013   #3936
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Audits by E&Y? There'll be no savings after that lot have finished.
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Old 10th October 2013   #3937
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Well it's almost time to bid goodbye to this thread. It's been a good thread, we've had some good times, we've had some bad times, we've laughed, we've cried. I remember all the early season angst: can Fab hold off the young pretender Sagan, and those sweepstakes on what km Geraint will fall off in. The sparring between Froome and Contador, which Froome won every time, unless Nibali was racing. Then Sir Brad, sweet, silly Sir Brad and the most half-hearted season we've ever seen from a rider of his calibre at the peak of his career. He ventured to the Giro with whispers of the double coming from his lips every time a journalist waved a microphone in his face, all to be washed away like the rest of the road detritus in the Italian rain, while Nibali continued peerlessly on, proving that whatever else his shortcomings as a rider may be, it's not that size of his balls. Huge balls, massive, biggest I ever saw. Wonder if he needs a custom saddle with those? And a reinforced chamois.

And then to the weird and whacky tour, where Froome smoteth all that challenged him with the smallest of smiles from those thin lips as Cound hovered behind operating the complex series of pullies that enable him to move and talk and things. Contador was suddenly, dramatically human, despite the power of his team and the paucity of Sky in comparison. Instead we lauded a new, genuine talent, a humble Colombian mountain goat who I look forward to watching win lots of things in the future.

Best of all was the comedy stylings of the Vuelta. Since in Spain it's rude not to dope, so everyone came to the party with a baggie and got right on it, including a diminutive yank no one right until the second to last stage thought he could win. His baggie was the best, and left the rest wanting to know where he got it from.

Favourite part was probably that Stannard ride in MSR when he was off the leash and threw down with the best and almost monstered it. Vanmarcke in Paris-Roubaix another great ride and Dan Martin in LBL a standout. Spring classics is where it is at.
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Old 10th October 2013   #3938
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^rep for the use of the word "smoteth"

See you all in the 2014 thread.
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Old 10th October 2013   #3939
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Hold on, we still got the Tour of unbelievable pollution levelsBeijing
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Old 10th October 2013   #3940
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We're closer the next year's classics than we are this year's #boner
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Old 10th October 2013   #3941
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Actually wtf is Richie Porte doing there

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Old 10th October 2013   #3942
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I reckon in a second he steps forward then moonwalks backwards across them
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Old 10th October 2013   #3943
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I'd pay good money to see that
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Old 10th October 2013   #3944
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In other news just read Santa has tweeted 'addio mondo' goodbye world. Shit
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Old 11th October 2013   #3945
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Tour of Beijing is being streamed live on Youtube

If anyone's interested in cycling in China there's also a series of Beijing Cycling stories on the youtube channel that I put together.

Last edited by TheLeek; 11th October 2013 at 07:19. Reason: spelling
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Old 11th October 2013   #3946
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Actually wtf is Richie Porte doing there

Triathletes... Never happy in a bunch
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Old 11th October 2013   #3947
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Good win for Thor today. Nice to see him getting back into good form.
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Old 11th October 2013   #3948
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In other news just read Santa has tweeted 'addio mondo' goodbye world. Shit
What?
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Old 11th October 2013   #3949
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^Santambrogio had a bit of a rough night

http://road.cc/content/news/96234-ma...upport-twitter
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Old 11th October 2013   #3950
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I'm very glad the worst didn't happen. Clean or otherwise, no-one should suffer like that. Makes me aware that I should have more humanity and less snarkiness and cynicism when it comes to riders.
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