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Old 31st March 2011   #251
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Full sus MTB's are'nt the most popular things on here. But come on, this is stunning.
http://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/2009/08/04/1/fs01_2_600.jpg
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Old 31st March 2011   #252
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Hmm, I have a set of Swiss Stop green for use with alloy rims.

I was intending on swapping complete pad+shoe assemblies over, however reading that link would it be easier to swap the pads and leave the shoes in place?
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Old 31st March 2011   #253
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Hmm, I have a set of Swiss Stop green for use with alloy rims.

I was intending on swapping complete pad+shoe assemblies over, however reading that link would it be easier to swap the pads and leave the shoes in place?
Depends on the pads/holders. I would have thought for Swiss-stop, that it was easier to swap complete assemblies.
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Old 31st March 2011   #254
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That Fourstroke is a thing of want. Although, when it comes to parting with actual monies I'd probably still go for a quality hardtail and get the best front shocks I could afford.
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Old 31st March 2011   #255
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Depends what you want it for. That thing's for racing.
I'd like a full sus all-mountain bike, if I was about to part with big money.
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Old 31st March 2011   #256
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Well, call it fate, or bicycle gods smiling but...

I went out for lunch, looked in the Evans window (theres a small shop under my office) and BOOM. The SL01 is sitting in the corner. The actual one I have been after. Full SRAM Rival, Easton wheels, Gunmetal Grey. So I put down a deposit and I'm going on a test ride at 6 (they're putting on some SPDs for me) I fear I may be in a lot of trouble when I get home.
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Old 31st March 2011   #257
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I bet its a fun ride.

Difficult one to hand back.
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Old 31st March 2011   #258
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Well, it was a fun ride. Trying to blast through Fitzrovia and find rough roads to test its harshness. It felt like a toy, totally flickable but way more relaxed feeling than my fuji track. Bang on size even though I had the seatpost at 22cm (25 was max) Have never ridden SRAM Rival before – Loved it. Totally intuitive. Brakes felt a wee bit mushy, but that may be their lack of bedding in. Wasn't blown away but then I have no other recent comparisons.

I'm going to sleep on it and ride another couple of bikes tomorrow.
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Old 1st April 2011   #259
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Sram groupsets are famed for there brakes. Might just be poor set-up. At that price point, its hard to justify any other groupset (aside from personnal taste). The wheels are a great chioce too. I cant the frame performing much different to the SLX01. The only difference is the top and head tubes being alu instead of carbon. Bit of a weight penalty perhaps. (slightly longer wheelbase too). The SLX01 was more than enough bike for Hincapie, and Zberg. IMHO its a fantastic package, and a serious bargin at the reduced price.

The SLX01 and pressumably this BMC have a pretty specific ride quality though. So trying other bikes before pulling the trigger would be a good idea. If it were me I'd try out a full carbon bike, at the same price point, for comparisson. E.g. the Fuji Team Pro Special Edition 2010.


I'm biast though ;)
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Old 1st April 2011   #260
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I'm failing at impulse purchasing...

This morning I rode a Fuji team pro (coincidentally as suggested) and another Fuji Alloy bike (at a lower price point) for comparison. No contest I'm afraid. The team Pro, OK and could live with it, but just no zing. The lower end one was actually fun, although harsh and sloppy at the same time (wheels) It was def. more of a commuter in style

I then re rode the BMC. Smooth, fast, insane confidence leaning into a corner, wheels were nice. I realised that the weird toy like feeling was just it's smoothness and lightness. Found myself grinning and just kept riding laps of the block. SRAM vs Shimano, meh, could ride with either and both felt just as good. The SRAM just giving a 'racier' impression with their more direct shifting.

Time to make the call I think.
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Old 1st April 2011   #261
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I internet forum wisdom is often that top end alu is better than mid/low level carbon. Like you, I'd have to check first.

Interesting to hear your take on the handling.
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Old 1st April 2011   #262
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1+ I was saying the exact same thing to a customer today who wanted a road bike with mount for pannier for commuting and weekend ride (Specialized Sectaur Elite).

Also some of the alu BMC have a carbon seatstay too.

Oh for amusement purpose - check the cable on the top tube;

http://www.ab-bike.com/image/photo_specialized-bicycle-secteur-elite-triple_596.jpg
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Old 1st April 2011   #263
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I internet forum wisdom is often that top end alu is better than mid/low level carbon. Like you, I'd have to check first.
Exactly. If it's good enough for Hincapie and Gilbert...

http://inrng.com/?p=1183
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Old 1st April 2011   #264
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Re BMC, It's nice to see the Swiss getting in on the market, the BMC's seem to have a bit of individuality, for a modern bike, and they are impressively light. The Streetracer SSX ? seems a bit of a sheep in wolf's clothing, but I was looking at a Road Racer SL01 about 5 years ago in Korea, before Halfords were selling them, and I remember being really impressed by them. The shop had some good BMC mountain bikes as well. The other interesting thing was, they were offering different choices of groupsets and wheelsets ( the shop in Korea I mean ), it was an interesting combination of a mainstream bike being available as a bespoke bike in that sense. It's interesting how the attitude to cycling is different in different countries, isn't it ? By the way, I'm new to this website and have no idea who I'm replying to here, but if I sound naive or something, doin't worry, I'll try to get more lfgss savvy asap. From Ben
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Old 2nd April 2011   #265
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Lengthy first post Ben.;)

Welcome.
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Old 2nd April 2011   #266
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On the subject of Alu BMC's. Is it easton Alu? They make a big deal of using easton carbon. But I haven't noticed easton alu written on mine (haven't read the full bike). MTB makers often make a big thing about using it.
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Old 2nd April 2011   #267
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On the subject of Alu BMC's. Is it easton Alu? They make a big deal of using easton carbon. But I haven't noticed easton alu written on mine (haven't read the full bike). MTB makers often make a big thing about using it.
A quick Google seems to suggest Easton Ultralite 7005 was used a couple of years ago, not sure if it's still used now. My SL01 doesn't mention the type of Alu used either...
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Old 2nd April 2011   #268
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My old Trek 8000 was made of Easton 7005 series, sorry that's not that relevant.
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Old 4th April 2011   #269
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Well, I had a shocker of a day at work on Friday so instead of going to the pub I bought the Roadracer SL01.

Took it for a proper spin on Sunday. First impressions are:

Comfortable. No harsh vibrations and no numb hands/back/neck etc.

Handles like it's on rails. To use car terminology, nice positive turn in with little to no understeer (at my slowish pace anyway)

Getting up to speed is entirely up to you. What I mean is that it seems there's zero wasted energy.

It's not perfect though, and I will be slowly making some tweaks. Things like a new, less twisty feeling stem and more compact shorter reach bars. New saddle the 'SCOR' item is errr, pointy and a bit flat. Need to adjust the front derailluer as it's not shifting easily and it rubs just a little when on the big ring (shit set up from evans I guess)

And finally, I will be saving for some proper, hand built wheels. The stock eastons are OK but ultimately feel a little less solid and precise as the rest of the bike.

So I'm totally happy with the purchase. I just need to get fit enough to justify the purchace....
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Old 4th April 2011   #270
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^ Sounds shit. I'll take it of your hands for £50...
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Old 4th April 2011   #271
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Don't try and rip him off.

I'll give you £60
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Old 4th April 2011   #272
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you would at least have to buy me a beer first.
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Old 4th April 2011   #273
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Reverse grooming, nice
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Old 4th April 2011   #274
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Well, I had a shocker of a day at work on Friday so instead of going to the pub I bought the Roadracer SL01.
Buying a SL01 is a viable alternative to going drinking. How much/where do you drink FFS?
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Need to adjust the front derailluer as it's not shifting easily and it rubs just a little when on the big ring (shit set up from evans I guess)
And finally, I will be saving for some proper, hand built wheels. The stock eastons are OK but ultimately feel a little less solid and precise as the rest of the bike.
Front mech issues sound like poor set-up. Start by adjusting the correct limiting screw. Then if needed, let a little bit of cable through the pinch bolt. Sorted.
Probably worth running a spoke key around those Easton wheels. They are in fact handmade, but even handmade wheels can go a bit astray after the first few outings. I can see that frameset being worthy of better hoops though.

If this dosent help I'll give £70 for it. No beer though, you sound like an expensive date ;)
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Old 5th April 2011   #275
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Ha, I do sound like a bit of a prat "oh I just dropped a grand on a whim, ho hum" But no, I've been looking for ages, and had saved a stash just for something like it. Totally excessive one off purchase.

Had a close look at the front mech. Def needs just a slight amount of cable let through. I think I have the limit screws set correctly.

The wheels are just not as stiff (sideways at least) as the set on mah fixeh and the funny thing is, my front wheel, an Open Pro with 32 spokes and bmx hub is lighter, and arguably better. When I say hand made I mean not in a factory. Anyway, all small things and I wont be getting hoops until I wear through the braking surface on the eastons. Maybe get in on the orient express
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Old 5th April 2011   #276
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Just go to your LBS and ask them to tweak the BMC, sound like whoever put it together didn't do it properly.
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Old 5th April 2011   #277
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Just go to your LBS and ask them to tweak the BMC, sound like whoever put it together didn't do it properly.
Sounds more like first ride tuning is needed to me. Things allways need a tweek after bedding in. Would'nt blame the shop on this one.
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Old 5th April 2011   #278
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did he buy it from Evans Wimbledon?
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Old 5th April 2011   #279
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Didn't come with racks and panniers.
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Old 5th April 2011   #280
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zing
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Old 5th April 2011   #281
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I shall hopefully be the owner of a 09 sl01 soon.
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Old 5th April 2011   #282
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noice. Lime green?
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Old 5th April 2011   #283
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I wish! Red/white.
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Old 6th April 2011   #284
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Loving the influx of BMC's

We should start a crew....

...or not.
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Old 6th April 2011   #285
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Too much?
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Old 6th April 2011   #286
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Yes!
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Old 6th April 2011   #287
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Too much?
Yes...
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Old 6th April 2011   #288
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I get the feeling that the three spacers are there regardless of desired bar height.
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Old 6th April 2011   #289
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The saddle is visibly cringing.
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Old 6th April 2011   #290
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Is there no BMC track bike? I thought there was, and couldn't find it on the site.
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Old 6th April 2011   #291
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They might not sell it any more.... didn't it have a habit of snapping?
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Old 6th April 2011   #292
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A minor detail.
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Old 6th April 2011   #293
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BMC Track Machine
http://forallmyfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/8-5_bmc-track-machine.jpg
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Old 6th April 2011   #294
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They defo make at least 2 track bikes as saw them whizzing about at the World Cup and World Champs.

Team issue only I reckon.
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Old 6th April 2011   #295
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Slack chain.

fnar fnar.
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Old 6th April 2011   #296
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Slack chain.

fnar fnar.
It's got bigger problems.

Lack of bar tape.
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Old 6th April 2011   #297
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It's got bigger problems.

Lack of bar tape.
Those bars dont need it.

Thats the 2010 TRC01. There is no 2011 version.
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Old 6th April 2011   #298
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http://velospace.org/files/tt02.jpg
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Old 6th April 2011   #299
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lusting over that black & white bmc track. Evans sells those, but only uk delivery. Any other shops in europe stock those in case I win the lottery or something?
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Old 6th April 2011   #300
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Thats the Time Machine. As the name hints, its a time trial bike. With horizontal drop-outs to get the rear wheel nice and aero.
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