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Old 16th January 2010   #501
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Old 16th January 2010   #502
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Was in Decathlon today and they have one of their MTB/hybrid frames set up as single speed with horizontal (not track) drop outs for £79.99 complete !!!

http://www.decathlon.fr/products-pictures/asset_19069898.jpg
http://www.decathlon.fr/products-pictures/asset_18823227.jpg
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Old 16th January 2010   #503
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wow, that's fantastic! defintely a lots better than those Tesco 18 speed rubbish, obviously certain part may be a little weak, but nothing a good mechanic can sort out.

horizontal drop out are usually the norms for singlespeed than track end.

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Old 16th January 2010   #504
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that's edscoble's next bike^
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Old 18th January 2010   #505
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Was in Decathlon today and they have one of their MTB/hybrid frames set up as single speed with horizontal (not track) drop outs for £79.99 complete !!!

http://www.decathlon.fr/products-pictures/asset_19069898.jpg
That has to be one of the ugliest bikes I've ever seen. Mind you, I don't read the Antiporn thread.
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Old 18th January 2010   #506
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That has to be one of the ugliest bikes I've ever seen. Mind you, I don't read the Antiporn thread.
Or the Foffa thread, obviously.
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Old 19th January 2010   #507
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it could serve as a spare throw in polo bike i guess
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Old 19th January 2010   #508
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it could serve as a spare throw in polo bike i guess
No need, you only throw in the mallet, you don't chuck the bike away.
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Old 19th January 2010   #509
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That has to be one of the ugliest bikes I've ever seen. Mind you, I don't read the Antiporn thread.
uglier than a faux fully suspended 18 gear thing that it would compete against (on price) ?
This bike would be a far better bet for people wishing to only spend £80 I would think and the only ugliness to worry about is on the potential riders mismatched tracksuit ensemble :-)
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Old 19th January 2010   #510
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I think it's perfect as a bike to lock up at a station. It's not trying to be something it's not: like a unipack or foffa, and the price reflects this. It's utilitarian to the point of ugliness, but who cares? it's for someone to ride a couple of miles on, not pose with.
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Old 19th January 2010   #511
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horizontal drop out are usually the norms for singlespeeds with mudguard eyelets, than track end.
Fixed ;)

Still bloody ugly though.
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Old 19th January 2010   #512
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uglier than a faux fully suspended 18 gear thing that it would compete against (on price) ?
This bike would be a far better bet for people wishing to only spend £80 I would think and the only ugliness to worry about is on the potential riders mismatched tracksuit ensemble :-)
My brother bought just himself a full-sus BSO for under 120 notes, off a catelogue. I said I would have bought something like this Nexus geared jobbie.......

http://84.19.224.75/products/full/00001076/00009452.jpg
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwP...c018333c018336

.....I get the impression he thought I was mad for wanting to spend twice as much, for a cheap looking bike with no 'features'. Fat tyres, big red rear sus springs, disc brakes, flashy wite sus forks, all sell bikes it appears.

Bring on the cheapo singlespeeds, I say.
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Old 19th January 2010   #513
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The B-Twin would probably look better with some mudguards filling up part of the huge clearances
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Old 19th January 2010   #514
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uglier than a faux fully suspended 18 gear thing that it would compete against (on price) ?
This bike would be a far better bet for people wishing to only spend £80 I would think and the only ugliness to worry about is on the potential riders mismatched tracksuit ensemble :-)
Your implied point that for that price individual components are likely to be better quality than on a geared MTB-style BSO is of course taken. But with bikes like that, there's always something about them being outside of any aesthetic categories--e.g., not even making an attempt at a diamond frame, which this one does, and, I think, fails tragically.

That said, I don't like it if people buy cheap shit landfill BSOs quite generally, be it MTB or fixie-bouncie.
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Old 18th May 2010   #515
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Colnago Pista aluminium, about £1200 complete
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Old 18th May 2010   #516
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Bianchi Pista
http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2009/09/04/1252069839091-1mfgeb522ak0a-798-75.jpg

Swap a threaded chrome fork in there and I'd have it...
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Old 18th May 2010   #517
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Colnago Pista aluminium, about £1200 complete
I just posted a really nice one in the Bike Porn thread.
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Old 18th May 2010   #518
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That's what made me check that it was in this thread.
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Old 18th May 2010   #519
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Fort R37.SX Track frame
$749 (£465)
http://www.fortbicycles.com/images/TrackR37x6.jpg

Wish they still did a 54/55cm one... My 56cm is just a tiny bit too big and I WOULD have another one, best frame I've ever ridden.
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Old 19th May 2010   #520
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My 54cm Fort track frame will be for sale as soon as I can get the cranks off it.
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Old 23rd July 2010   #521
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Can we have a 2011 bikes thread or is it too early? I'm really liking the look of the Genesis Day One Cross alfine!
http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2010/07/22/1279786579841-19qoxk8b2yzgx-798-75.jpg
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Old 23rd July 2010   #522
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Can we have a 2011 bikes thread or is it too early?
Not too early, as product launches for next season are already under way. First thing I thought when I saw that there was a new post in this thread was that it must be time for the 2011 thread.

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Old 23rd July 2010   #523
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Alfine 8 speeds (or is it the new 11spd?) with brake shifter? brilliant!
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Old 24th July 2010   #524
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Can we have a 2011 bikes thread or is it too early? I'm really liking the look of the Genesis Day One Cross alfine!
http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2010/07/22/1279786579841-19qoxk8b2yzgx-798-75.jpg
It's an interesting idea and makes a lot of sense for cyclocross. I wonder if the gear range works, although I guess you can get it spot on by speccing the right sized front chainring. At £999 it's going to be a hit on the Cycle2Work scheme.
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Old 24th July 2010   #525
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Alfine range from top to bottom is about 3:1 isn't it? That's like running a 1x8 dérailleur system with an 11-32 cassette, pretty big jumps for cross racing but (Al)fine for leisure use.
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Old 24th July 2010   #526
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Rotten pun. :-)

I assume the introduction of the 11 speed Alfine hub, due in September, will address the jumps between ratios?
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Old 24th July 2010   #527
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No, it extends the range rather than providing smaller jumps

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this new 11-speed Alfine has a gear range of 409%, compared to 307% for the current 8-speed version.
http://bicycledesign.net/2010/02/shi...fine-11-speed/
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Old 25th July 2010   #528
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That seems a bit daft. I wonder if the rule change that now allows disc brakes in cyclocross will see any innovation around things like hub gearing in the next year or so. The Genesis bike above looks like a good bike for muddier cross races and should, in theory, increase drivetrain longevity. It'll be interesting to see if any pros switch to discs this coming season, and I assume some will at the behest of their sponsors who pushed for this change in the first place.
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Old 25th July 2010   #529
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it will also be interesting to see what difference it makes to the pros that are on discs and whether it gives them any competitive advantage. In theory the better braking could mean later braking into corners but aren't the 33c tyres still going to struggle like they already do.

But guess later in the race when the cantis/rims are covered in mud and not working effectively the disc bikes will gain the advantage.

Any proven advantages would surely direct the pros, if the discs are any quicker then they will all have them. Why wouldn't they?
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Old 25th July 2010   #530
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As much discussion as I've seen indicates that Pros will be adding another set of bikes to the pile of equipment they take to races, alongside the multiple wheel sets with different tyres. Disc brakes will need to get lighter to become universal, since reliable race worthy cross bikes are still well over the minimum weight and the fact that they have to be carried makes keeping them light even more important than it is for road bikes.
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Old 25th July 2010   #531
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Its, quite unbelievably, the GIANT CHIXIE!




http://www.moosecycles.com/smsimg/8/966-2571-full-chixie_brushed_blue_gu_angle-8.jpg
they have one of these in putney cycles, near me. not as nice in the flesh, ill tell ya.
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Old 25th July 2010   #532
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I had meant unbelievably nasty looking.


As for 2011 bikes, its been the tradition that its Fixed Gear and Singlespeed bikes that have been highlighted. A bit obvious really, as that is what binds us all together. If we start listing geared bikes, where would we stop? The list would be endless.

Bad idea to list geared bikes IMO.
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Old 25th July 2010   #533
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I think it's reasonable to include hub gears, as they have some features and benefits in common with FGSS. Obviously there are plenty of other places covering the hundreds of subtle variations on carbon frame/road groupset which come out every year.
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Old 25th July 2010   #534
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Hub gears with up to 3 speeds is roughly in keeping with the spirit of early cycling. But hub gears with anymore gears than 3, is just against the spirit of fgss.

8-11 gears seems a joke to me, when comparing their similarity to singlespeed bikes.

3-spd fixed is well known and established. Has been so for many decades.

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Old 25th July 2010   #535
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We're not all about the "spirit of early cycling" though. Some people just like the low maintenance/cleanliness aspect of having no dérailleur, so it doesn't matter to them how many gears are in that bean can at the back as long as they stay sealed in there.
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Old 25th July 2010   #536
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We're not all about the "spirit of early cycling" though......

I disagree with you. Strongly.
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Old 25th July 2010   #537
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How can you say that? You might be all about the spirit of early cycling, but have a look around you; there are people riding FGSS for many reasons which have nothing to do with history and heritage. I'm actually one of the ones who is somewhat influenced by a sense of heritage, as I time trial on fixed just like they did in the olden days, but most of the whippersnappers on here think fixed was invented in 2007, so their sense of the "spirit of early cycling" probably means they can just about remember when road bikes only had 9 sprockets.

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Old 25th July 2010   #538
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3-spd fixed is well known and established. Has been so for many decades.
4-speed is over 70 years old, dérailleurs are over a hundred years old. Being long established is not a criterion for inclusion here.
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Old 25th July 2010   #539
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Understood, but what's the forum called?
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Old 25th July 2010   #540
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I know what the forum is called, but a quick look at current projects tells you that that the forum is not inviolably constrained by its name.
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Old 25th July 2010   #541
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there is such a huge diversity of bikes on this site that it would be a shame to try and cap it.
fair enough if you only ride fixed, or only ride single-speed, but a huge percentage of users span the disciplines (if you could call it that) of cycling.
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Old 25th July 2010   #542
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I'm sure the intelligent amongst you shall disagree, but the LEAST EMPHASIS in our forum's name, is on the word LONDON.

The raison d'etre of our creation was for the other part of our name FIXED GEAR and SINGLE-SPEED. This is why I joined.

I have no interest in multi-geared bikes, though they are clearly superior in so many disciplines. But those disciplines are amply discussed in every other cycling forum that I care never to think about.

One gear. Fixed or freewheeling. Or stick a good old Sturmey-Archer 3spd fixed on there, like on the Pearson 150 Special Edition, and I, and I'm sure some others, would approve.

For multitudinous gearing, other forums await with anxious anticipation. This forum does put up with it, albeit with gritted teeth. That's not to say that I hold the same all-inclusive sentiment.

If this goes on, there will be more and more riders that feel this is just another bike forum. It's not. It's the best, and the idea is FGSS.
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Old 25th July 2010   #543
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We keep along this road, and eventually we'll include electric cars and land-yachts.

Soon people will be turning up at drinks in their Rolls-Royces, and not see what the problem is.

I don't agree that everything goes. Maybe the forum should more fully discuss this.
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Old 25th July 2010   #544
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thats true, there is only so much that people tolerate. there is a limited number of threads about different bikes in comparison to fixed gear bikes and just less of an involvement with "other" bikes. but the occasional discussion etc is tolerable. i barely knew anything about any kind of bike before i joined this forum and now, i think i know a good amount of things about fixed gear and increasing amounts about geared bikes and i'm learning these things from people i feel "comfortable" with.
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Old 25th July 2010   #545
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Soon people will be turning up at drinks in their Rolls-Royces, and not see what the problem is.
lynx already did that in a van :)
and there are threads about cars etc.
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Old 25th July 2010   #546
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I'm not allowed to mention or discuss certain forumengers, so I will leave my answer in the imaginations of others.

As for threads of cars, they inhabit the same space as threads on cheesecakes. They are an amusing diversion. And I think such diversions are a good thing, or we'd be an awfully serious lot.
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Old 25th July 2010   #547
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Wow, I didn't think I wasn't being that provocative. I simply suggested that, for obvious reasons of crossover appeal and because common bike fora tend to concentrate on dérailleur bikes to the exclusion of all else, the thread discussing new bike releases could include hub geared bikes alongside FGSS.
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Old 25th July 2010   #548
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So swap the rear wheel on that genesis and you have option of a fixed/geared commuter/cross do it all winter bike? Cool
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Old 25th July 2010   #549
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More pictures of bikes please (with or without gears I couldn't give a damn) less blanket statements about what the forum wants/doesn't want.
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Old 25th July 2010   #550
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More pictures of bikes please (with or without gears I couldn't give a damn) less blanket statements about what the forum wants/doesn't want.
Werd.
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