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Old 22nd October 2013   #1
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2014 Pro-cycling season thread

With 2013 done and details emerging on 2014 grand tours and more, I thought it was time to get this going.
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Old 22nd October 2013   #2
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I'll start - Adam Blythe has just signed for the UK based NFTO team for next season.
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Old 3rd November 2013   #4
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Reports in Italy that Riis has sold his Saxobank team to ex-sponsor Oleg Tinkoff for €7m..
Seriously - you couldn't make this stuff up.. Is it Italian April Fool's Day?
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Old 25th November 2013   #5
WillMelling
Like the result of a competition to come up with the worst possible name for a team.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kaza...ntinental-team
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Old 4th December 2013   #6
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http://http://www.feltet.dk/octo_cms...2014_troje.jpg

New lotto belisol jersey.

Fuck you and your golden shoulders Quigley.
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Old 5th December 2013   #7
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The funniest transfer news ever

Cobo signs for Turkish super dopers Torku Seker Spor
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Old 5th December 2013   #8
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Anyone got odds on Tour of Turkey 2014?
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Old 6th December 2013   #9
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^^ facepalm. Has he not gone back to being a sparky yet?
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Old 16th December 2013   #10
Mortadella
http://pedalmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Cancellara-Boonen-Flanders-CORVOS_00021000-010.jpg

Hunches, predictions and the like...

Is Sagan going to step up and take a Monument? Will it be a Boonen Vs Cancellara spring? *smacks lips*. Are the rumbling rumours about Wiggins qua Roubaix worth taking serious or just pure lols?

Ah yes, and those other races - the long ones. Who's going to race what? Seems the TDF is going to get a near full house: Froome + Nibali + Quintana, etc.

What about the Giro? Seems nicely poised: Purito vs Porte?

And anything else worth looking fwd to? The Pantani film for example: OMG!
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Old 16th December 2013   #11
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Can you guess what destroyed Lachlan Morton's bikes back home in 'Straya?

http://distilleryimage0.ak.instagram.com/4bbf7b9665ed11e3aec5128fd569807c_8.jpg
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Old 16th December 2013   #12
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If you guessed "a fucking big (now ex-) eagle crashed into them" congratulations

Fucking spiders, birds of prey, burn it all down

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/1fda7cdc65f311e396a212dd559b4989_8.jpg
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Old 16th December 2013   #13
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^ saw that on your twitter. Oof.


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http://pedalmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Cancellara-Boonen-Flanders-CORVOS_00021000-010.jpg

Hunches, predictions and the like...

Is Sagan going to step up and take a Monument? Will it be a Boonen Vs Cancellara spring? *smacks lips*. Are the rumbling rumours about Wiggins qua Roubaix worth taking serious or just pure lols?

Ah yes, and those other races - the long ones. Who's going to race what? Seems the TDF is going to get a near full house: Froome + Nibali + Quintana, etc.

What about the Giro? Seems nicely poised: Purito vs Porte?

And anything else worth looking fwd to? The Pantani film for example: OMG!
Um, I think the word is that Quintana will be targeting the Giro, which seems a bit of a shame.

Will be interesting to see how Sagan does this year and if Cancellara will give it his all. Hoping that Stybar will get to have another bite at PR too..

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Old 16th December 2013   #14
Mortadella
Forgot to mention Bert. Says he's gonna get his prep right this year...
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Old 16th December 2013   #15
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Shame about Nairo... Could be tasty tho: Quintana vs Purito Vs Porte Vs Evans...
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Old 19th December 2013   #16
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Hoping that Stybar will get to have another bite at PR too..
Big +1 to that.
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Old 19th December 2013   #17
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I want to see Cancellara take on (and take) the Hour record. The rest of 2014 is just a big dope-filled, WWF wrestling-esque masqurade of lies, damn lies and power meters.
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Old 19th December 2013   #18
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Fancy Betancur to win LBL or Lombardia. Sagan will tear it up in the classics and win at least two. Cancellara will be focusing on the hour. Cav to win fuck all stages at the Tour. Froome to crash out in week one.
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Old 19th December 2013   #19
Chadders81
All quite pointless but if one of those things happens I will be pretty smug momentarily.
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Old 21st December 2013   #20
WillMelling
"Riding Grand Tours relaxes the brain".
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/adam...d-tour-in-2014
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Old 22nd December 2013   #21
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I want to see Cancellara take on (and take) the Hour record. The rest of 2014 is just a big dope-filled, WWF wrestling-esque masqurade of lies, damn lies and power meters.

I vaguely recall the rules for this being set at 1970s technology. Would be nice if Fabs ends up on here bidding for some ancient frame and wheels and haggling over the price of some c-record cranks...
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Old 1st January 2014   #22
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Yeah, they changed the rules so it's now the Athlete's Hour and must be conducted using a standard position on a Merckx type bike, ie. spoked wheels, metal tube frame, no aero aids, etc. The UCI were worried the positions and aero bikes were taking away from the rider's performance during the record.

This doesn't stop riders working within the UCIs silly rules like Sosenka who apparently used a very heavy rear wheel for flywheel effect and super long frames within whatever morphological rules they came up with to limit positions.
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Old 1st January 2014   #23
Mortadella
*dressing for pleasure* (CF reveals TS 2014 kit :/)
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Old 1st January 2014   #24
Mortadella
nipples.
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Old 1st January 2014   #25
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^^^ surely in the first place it should've been deemed fucking stupid to allow the use of aerodynamic enhancing parts/carbon when the first records were set on steel? unfair much?

^^ hahahahahaha cheeky pose there Chris

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Old 1st January 2014   #26
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Progress is stupid?
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Old 1st January 2014   #27
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Cav to win fuck all stages at the Tour. Froome to crash out in week one.
I don't reckon so.

I know Cav's form in the first week of the TdF has always been a bit shaky, but this is his last chance at the yellow jersey for at least a few years. I reckon he's of the right mind to find the finish line on stage one and OPQS will be happy to entertain that. I also reckon he stands a good chance on the Champs Elysees as well. The other sprinters and their teams have done a lot of catching up on Cav and the old Columbia style but Renshaw is coming back and that could make a lot of difference.

As for Froome? It's hard to gauge his chances of successfully defending his title but a crash out in week 1 seems very unlikely. He's a far better rider than that.
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Old 1st January 2014   #28
LarryWhite
^^nah didn't mean it like that, just think its technically unfair on those who broke it on steel if its then broken by someone on a lighter, more aerodynamic bike.
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Old 1st January 2014   #29
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As for Froome? It's hard to gauge his chances of successfully defending his title but a crash out in week 1 seems very unlikely. He's a far better rider than that.

Erm... he crashed in the neutral zone of the first stage of 2013's Tour..
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Old 1st January 2014   #30
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Wow, I though he won the race.
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Old 1st January 2014   #31
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I didn't say he crashed out. I said he crashed, highlighting the irony of saying he's too good to crash out in week one.
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Old 1st January 2014   #32
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^^nah didn't mean it like that, just think its technically unfair on those who broke it on steel if its then broken by someone on a lighter, more aerodynamic bike.
That's progress. Should everyone be on 70s bikes? Should the Merckx record be disallowed because he used better steel than those who set the record 50 years before him? It makes no sense to set an arbitrary point in time for the record's equipment to be based on. It's just the UCI getting their knickers in a twist when people they deemed not pro (Obree) or whatever gained the record.
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Old 1st January 2014   #33
LarryWhite
I fully hear you there bro. But there's a big difference between 'better' steel and old steel, and 'better' steel and carbon. *I guess the introduction of two different records solves this, and so none of these silly debates (much like this one) are had over fairness.

Although, I do agree that these issues could only have been solved with the introduction of carbon technologies, which didn't happen till relatively recently.

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Old 1st January 2014   #34
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That was just one example to make a point. Merckx drilled his components, had alu bars, had far better tyres, etc. Why should the guys that held the record before Merckx lose out because he had better tech? Why should people after Merckx lose out in the same way?

The problem with the 'one bike' thing is there's always room for manipulating things within the rules. Cancellara has a whole team of people working on the record. It's not just bike tech either - did Merckx have access to wind tunnels? Did he have the same nutritional knowledge? The same knowledge of warm up protocols, etc. Even newer velodromes are designed to be faster than older ones. See what I mean? There's far too much to actually nail down, even if everyone had to use the same bike in the same velodrome - which in itself is basically impossible.
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Old 1st January 2014   #35
LarryWhite
Yeah I fully hear you bro. Wasn't saying your wrong either, alot of the points I agree with, just my opinion. I think a lot of this weaving around the rules and shit could be solved by the introduction of a 'record bike'; you can chose your GI etc, but ultimately it's the same bike, and it's metal with spoked wheels etc, so nobody loses out over time, or because other limiting factors. They could still have the one where you can of course ride a custom bike that isn't metal.
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Old 2nd January 2014   #36
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I think the one bike should be a clown bike for the lols.

I don't really, as hippy has pointed out just trying to fix one variable (the bike) when so many other advances have been made is pointless. Carbon shoes, aero clothing, training programs, conditioning etc etc will all make an impact.

Even trying to specify the geometry is pointless as it would favour certain physiques
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Old 2nd January 2014   #37
LarryWhite
Yeah I hear that, I don't know how it would be conceived etc or geo, materials or whatever, was just saying that for the fairest test I think that one bike would make sense, all factors mentioned aside. On the other hand I do understand how all the factors you did and didn't mention would make this extremely difficult and senseless.
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Old 2nd January 2014   #38
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At least when the 'aero arms race' was allowed, companies and riders were actually attempting the Hour and producing new and possibly useful innovations. I'd like to see it again to be honest.
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Old 2nd January 2014   #39
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Not wanting to affend the purists. But bike tech is part of it for me. Like F1. You appreciate both the drivers skill and the tech of the car.
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Old 2nd January 2014   #40
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I think the new UCI regime understand that bike technology is an important part of the equation, and will modify rules accordingly. I hope.
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Old 2nd January 2014   #41
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Sounds like they've already started, with the relaxation of the (farkin ridiculous) TT position rules.
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Old 2nd January 2014   #42
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I think the new UCI regime understand that bike technology is an important part of the equation, and will modify rules accordingly. I hope.
In which case we could get to the ridiculous point of the Athlete's Hour being mothballed in the same way that the Absolute Hour was.. And the Absolute Hour being reinstated..
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Old 2nd January 2014   #43
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JTL has disappeared from the Team Sky website then

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Old 2nd January 2014   #44
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JTL has disappeared from the Team Sky website then

To be honest, I am more way more disappointed by Luke Rowe's 'tache.

And by the fact that they are using the same pic for the two Henao's.
Presumably the Conspiracy Theorists are now rushing to claim that Sky are Clone-Doping..

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Old 2nd January 2014   #45
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Ha, they've fixed the Henaos' pics now
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Old 2nd January 2014   #46
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I wonder how long before 'Hedge Rowe' requests a pruning of that top lip bush pic..
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Old 2nd January 2014   #47
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Probably taken in Movember
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Old 3rd January 2014   #48
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Tour Down Under starts 19th of this month. I wonder if Eurosport have coverage?
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Old 3rd January 2014   #49
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They didn't last year, it was one of the few races that Sky had the rights for.
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Old 3rd January 2014   #50
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Yeah I know, the bastards. It's why I ignored it completely last year. I'm keen to see some racing though so was hoping ES had rights.
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