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correction "in proportion to the huge percentage of vehicular traffic that is now bike in central london"

Campaigners must be careful neither to accidentally talk down the cause for which they are working by communicating an unrealistic image of 'danger', nor to invoke some sort of unrealistic ideal

The demographic we now want to add to the cycling revolution, you know people other than the thoughtful and fit chaps such as dominate this forum, aren't going to be sweet-talked into facing down HGVs by a bit of self-censorship on our part. Quite the contrary - if children and mothers and other 'non-cyclists' are ever going to get on a bike, they rely on us to kick up a fuss and sort the roads out - to atleast create roadspace and layout and priority in proportion to the huge percentage of vehicular traffic that is not bike in central london. Check out RAC figures - in many inner london boroughs there are more cycling commutes than commutes by taxi car and van put together. With the brave already on a bike, now's not the time for softly softly. Now's the time to point out that London Cyclists are a big block that save the city megabucks and deserve better than blue paint. For all the noise, Boris's instructions to transport planners seem aimed at anything other than providing a decent sodding junction

#TfLKillingTruth or #StopKillingCyclists

some blogs/campaigns:
http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/about/
http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2011/02/all-those-myths-and-excuses-in-one-post.html
http://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/
http://departmentfortransport.wordpress.com/
http://cyclelondoncity.blogspot.co.uk/
http://www.voleospeed.co.uk/
http://saferoxfordstreet.blogspot.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/rethinkingchildhood?directed_target_id=0
https://www.facebook.com/groups/231904483648270/

subvert campaign:
http://stopthekilling.org.uk/posters-and-subvertisements/#jp-carousel-558
http://stopthekilling.org.uk/posters-and-subvertisements/

what puts people off is that the road design isn't attractive to newbie cyclists, not that campaigning reminds people of this problem. there's been a campaigns upsurge after the spate of deaths not simply in response to the deaths themselves but in response to the outrageous victim-blaming narrative that Boris & co tried to weave around those deaths, which was far more likely to put people off than pointing t the real problem. by continental and NYC standards the blue paint is a dangerous joke. if it at least did not have cars parked in it and motors stopping in the ASL boxes without the slightest idea what they are for or fear of enforcement, that would be another small advance from spin to reality

I arrived at my Christmas destination with a broken axle - (it broke on the last mile into Bedford). I'm blaming thousands of miles trouble free service and/or bad surface and/or presents in panniers.

Hub is the later nuovo tipo without the grease hole & cover, just campy, not record. Curved 'campagnolo' lever on skewer, no ring in the nose on the other side. Campagnolo 36 hole small flange rear hub for threaded freewheel, dropouts 121.5mm, quick release hollow axle was 122.5mm with various spacers -between the nuts. Threaded axle itself runs to 127/128mm as accurate as I can measure, and on both sides about half spans the lands of the dropouts.

Looks like some new cones would be no bad thing, if anyone has them.

Maybe someone changed out the qr axle for a solid axle and kept the qr hollow in a box?

well said dancing james. and lets have bikeability training for some transport planners too

They protested just there because there's an on-pavement cycle-way which ends exactly at the junction.

I gather not everyone on this thread thinks that it's a good thing. I do. It was all cleared with the police and peaceful and so forth, so I'm not really clear what the beef is with the method. Aims include getting TfL to move beyond the suicide paint towards infrastructure that ordinary people want to cycle on, and other obvious and achievable stuff like actually installing the sensors that eliminate blind spots on heavy vehicles. That operation safeway should spend a bit more time on compliance from the vehicles that actually do the killing is also a demand.

There were about 60 for the actual die in, which is in-line with what the organisers asked for, in order to commemorate casualties at this junction. Commuters were joining in and passing on as their deadlines required. Personally I think it's pretty impressive that you could get such numbers for something at 7.30 AM Here's an account: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2013/dec/20/cyclists-die-in-vauxhall-bridge-road-safety

BTW, I agree very much with the praise heaped on the Poynton Scheme http://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-services/what-we-do/route-design-and-construction/shared-space-busy-intersection-poynton
by
http://theconversation.com/never-mind-investment-we-can-improve-cycle-safety-now-21247

Definately 'shared space' is the way forward for a lot of London - remove the 'go faster - now you have a right to run him down' signage and you can increase capacity and reduce speed both - win win for cyclists. The problem is that we will need more and bigger Poynton style schemes before the DoT are properly up to speed with the idea. Segregation also works and is more doable in the near to middle term, I think. So MANY things work, but nothing goes forward properly without demos that impose a political cost for victim-blaming and other excuses.

I agree that any suggestion that you shouldn't be cycling at all untill dutch standards are in place everywhere would put of cyclists, but I don't see that campaigning for safe provision amounts to this. There are lots of bits of holland where dutch standards are not in place: they generally install the cycle infrastructure when the road becomes dues for renewal anyway. That's what we are not currently doing and should be doing, in addition to the fixes that are recommended at http://theconversation.com/never-mind-investment-we-can-improve-cycle-safety-now-21247

Pissing-off motorists. Pissing off the general public is the concern. People who commute by private car in london are a much smaller demographic and have much less public sympathy than the amount of space they take up on the roads would lead you to believe. Attitudes of those on the bus matter a lot more - and yes, there I'm with you in hope that what results isn't antagonism. I take it that TfL passengers would want bus drivers to have such technical gizmos, and for there to be such physical infrastructure, that their commutes to work are not interrupted by the bus having to stop so that an ambulance can be called? Also, bus passengers are pedestrians, and the "Stop The Killing" campaign seems to unite those campaigning for pedestrian safety with cyclist campaigners - check their fb group - for the moment the media might be portraying this as a "cycling protest" but there is a tactical gain to be won here in the broader base of concern about blind lorries and busses that this "Stop The Killing" campaign seems to involve. If the chaps demonstrating for pedestrian and cyclist safety keep it civil, the main inconvenience will be to the Mayor's political image - which is precisely how to exert pressure. To judge from LCC updates, it would appear that others squaring up to the mayor is reaping dividends in implementation brought forward.

"All the energy that goes into negative campaining takes away from positive cycling promotion"

I'm not unfamiliar with your argument, but i think you are wrong, and might be ignorant of some history. Where cycling is a genuinely mass form of transport, this has never resulted from nudging, or anything at all gentle, politically speaking. It has resulted from doing something to the roads to make them not only be but appear safe to cycle on - and by "shreiking" things properly connected with the responsibility of city planners for the arrangement of our streets ("Stop Der Kindermoord").

One strand of what you are saying is that there are lots of sound reasons to be brave, and that more bravery will be encouraged among a slightly larger demographic by the right sort of propaganda and a bit of decorum or self-cenorship about cyclist deaths and injuries. That's more or less the philosophy of recruitment into the Marines. Good on you chaps - i've got a pretty stiff upper lip myself - but what about the civilians?

this is what i think http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/about/

I prefer the campaigns philosophy of http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/ to the idea that you can chivvy people into cycling by talking down the risk. You can't make something feel safe and enjoyable by showering them with statistics when they can just see that the road layout puts them in close contact with dirty great construction lorries. The spate of deaths might have the effect of putting people off, but I don't see how campaigning to do something about it would. Most people think cycling is indistinguishable from suicide anyhow - that's why they aren't doing it. So if you want to expand the cycling demographic, the Next 'Die-In' is at Vauxhall Cross
Thursday 19th Dec 07:30 - 08:30

apparently...

Next 'Die-In'
Vauxhall Cross
Thursday 19th Dec 07:30 - 08:30

Chap says:
"A peaceful, dignified morning rush-hour protest at Vauxhall Cross to remember all victims of this treacherous intersection, to highlight the plight of cyclists who are forced from a segregated lane into potentially lethal traffic on the Southern approach to Vauxhall Bridge and to call for the extension of existing cycle-specific infrastructure.

At this location police on Operation Safeway have been ticketing cyclists - against ministerial guidelines - for taking the much safer route to Vauxhall Bridge along a very wide stretch of pavement, just to fulfil their Fixed Penalty Notice quota.

Right across London cyclists are being crushed at left-hand-turns yet all the Mayor has done is blame the victims. At this junction a LHT bypass, designed to keep pedestrians and cyclists safe, should have been installed years ago."

Don't know what turn-out they will get AM. Good Luck to them.

I agree here too.

Seem to be a few cheap shots being taken at some organiser bloke.
Don't know him, never heard of him. Irrelevant really.
More power to his elbow for helping to get it together though, I'd say.

That there was such a protest in response to victim-blaming language from the Mayor was a triumph, I'd say. What it evolves into, I couldn't say.

If you want to influence it/express moderating wisdom to the organisers, here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/stopkillingcyclists/

http://stopkillingcyclists.org

https://www.facebook.com/events/1486869428205268/?ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular

This

Not really, no.
Humourless puritans...throwback...CND a waste of time too? Right.
Got a bit of a Johnson going on there have we?

People concerned about people dying are not tiresome obsessives.
Looks like It raised the profile of the issue, it got people involved in doing something.
Better something than nothing...

Road user education goes without saying. A change in the law would certainly speed that project up or don't you agree with that? Using different means to raise awareness. Well why not? If you don't agree with what went on, organise something else.

http://stopkillingcyclists.org

Next 'Die-In'
Thursday 19th Dec 07:30 - 08:30

"A peaceful, dignified morning rush-hour protest at Vauxhall Cross to remember all victims of this treacherous intersection, to highlight the plight of cyclists who are forced from a segregated lane into potentially lethal traffic on the Southern approach to Vauxhall Bridge and to call for the extension of existing cycle-specific infrastructure.

At this location police on Operation Safeway have been ticketing cyclists - against ministerial guidelines - for taking the much safer route to Vauxhall Bridge along a very wide stretch of pavement, just to fulfil their Fixed Penalty Notice quota.

Right across London cyclists are being crushed at left-hand-turns yet all the Mayor has done is blame the victims. At this junction a LHT bypass, designed to keep pedestrians and cyclists safe, should have been installed years ago."

Follow-up to the Die-in in front of TfL

https://www.facebook.com/events/1486869428205268/?ref=3&ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular

https://www.facebook.com/groups/stopkillingcyclists/

Probably you are all aware of this, but just in case.

3rd dibs, on the basis of 55cm tt, 57cm st - just my size. pmed

I was thinking i might pay UK postage, otherwise I'll be in big smoke in a couple of weeks. PM'd.

Took my ancient ride on a tour de france. Half way round it fell while propped and landed the handlebar on to a right hand (front derailleur) bar-end shifter (friction). This bit of kit not widely available in france it transpires, and I continued (selecting a flatter route) on the middle chainring until a couple of inspired frenchmen (AirBikes, Saumur; Decathlon, Angers) repaired the changer with cable ties and plumbing washers, after which ca marche, in the sense of, it limps. S'il vous plaît, I might benefit from a bar-end shifter, single or pair, if it lurks in your boxes.

received, cage changed, works perfect, and in plenty of time to make St Malo! Thank You Giurgiu! .... however, now i have a cracked rear rim that won't be fixed till tuesday. bugger. new thread. Wanted: Luck.