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@Rod_Munch I rode it in reverse this year, had to take my daughter swimming, so couldn't sleep in on Sunday. It's fun watching all the cyclist heading to Dunwich but about 1am I saw the last person & was 40 miles from London & it suddenly becomes really dark and you feel very alone.

I quite enjoy the solitary feel but riding through endless tunnels of trees where it's almost pitch black isn't much fun on your own. I definitely prefer riding London to Dunwich but it was a bonus getting to sleep in my own bed without having to plan the return journey.

Wow, things are moving fast on here.

The Cranbrook Banqueting Suite is where Alfred Hugh Harman started his photographic company, later known as Ilford.

It was originally named Britannia Works but in 1900's he wanted to change the name to Ilford Ltd & the council objected. When they finally gave in, he had to use a comma before Ltd so it became Ilford, Ltd for 50 years.

They must have only had a 50 year agreement as in was dropped in the 50s.

Taz had gone…Sorry for bumping you, I hope you didn't travel too far to get it.

I wanted to do this tag a couple of years ago, there was a link between this & a tag in a cemetery in King Cross if I remember rightly, I never got round to doing it, so glad @oat44 did.

@dicki It's about 2 mins from the Temple. If you head towards the back of the house, you get to the Ornamental pond & the Groto is there. Although, you get a better view of it on the opposite bank.

Old: The Temple, Wanstead Park

It was first mentioned in the Doomsday Book, was a hunting lodge for Henry VII & then in 1775 was transformed into a grand mansion. Fast forward 90 years & it was left to a Catherine Tylney-Long, making her the richest woman in England, unfortunately for her, she made the mistake of marrying the wrong man, who then went about draining her funds & racking up a debt of £250,000 in just 10 years. To escape their debtors they did a runner to Italy but things only got worse for Catherine, with her husband being unfaithful.

She came back to England ashamed & ruined & had no choice but to sale the Estate to clear the debts. The house didn't generate any interest so it was pulled down for the timber & fabric. A house that cost £360,00 to build was sold for just £10,000.

The Temple is what remains of the building & there's also a grotto which looks like it's had some restoration work done to it since I last saw it. I used to play on the derelict grotto as a kid.

This was the estate in it's heyday

New:
The town & company...although the council weren't happy

getting warm

Old: The Stephen Lawrence Centre
Brookmill Rd SE8

New: There have been many pointless deaths reaching this equator line

South Woolwich makes more sense, see you there

Are you going along the greenway to Woolwich?
If so, I'll meet you at Beckton.

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New clue (not for Phil):
The three little pigs will be happy

Back out of hibernation

Old: Melissa, home made niceness.
Camden High St

New: It didn't quite fill you with volcanicity.

Hmmm...gothic/haunted/paranormal ride, anyone?

Brilliant idea, I'm in...evening or night-time ride for the hardcore.

Good anecdotal info there though! It burnt down on a Sunday morning in 1917, hence the clue. I don't want to give you nightmares but between then and the Copped Hall Trust taking it over in 1995 nobody really knows what happened in it!

Ha, I've gone past nightmares, now you're trying to scar me.

When I was googling Copped Hall I ended up on a paranormal site. The stories I read were quite funny. It seems like it was kids terrifying kids with all the tales. I think the more serious stories came from a security guard seeing drug deals & hearing gun shots in the 90s.

I couldn't agree more about the M25. It would be amazing if the trust could transform it back to its former self. It's a shame something so grand has been left like this for so long. There's a grotto I've seen in a similar state that I want to tag at some point.

Great tag by the way.

Excellent tag. Copped hall brought back so many great memories. I wanted to get this tag to see how it looks now but alas no time this week.

This was the place in the late 80s, early 90s, that girls who had just passed their driving tests would take hardened East London boys in the dead of night & turned them into a traumatised, screaming mess.

I was originally told it was a hospital in the 1st world war & then a mental asylum.

You entered the grounds through some gates & then walked about a mile through dense forest before reaching the house. Crossing a bridge over the M25 that was covered in satanic graffiti & then walk up a long path until you reached the house. It was pretty much gutted back then but I remember a beautiful victorian fire place on the top floor but with no way to get up there as the floors had all caved in.

There was also some cellars, again full of satanic graffiti where we were told child sacrifices had taken place. The first time I went there it was the middle of the night, pitch black. We used lighters to see our way around & I remember being greeted with a hangman's noose as I entered the back of the building, just near a hole that took you into the cellars. It was terrifying.

I've now read it was actually a family home & not a place to do your weekly child sacrifice. This was how it looked in it's hey day.

Yes, looks like it.

I haven't been there since the late 80s & it looked very different from the overgrown shell of a building I remember. The clean brickwork alone gives it some of the grandeur it deserves.

I had a read on wikipedia & I'm devastated to find out it isn't what I thought it was.
All the stories I heard about this place in my youth are lies.

ohhhhhh good new tag.
I haven't been there in years.
It looks like they've done it up since I last visited.

I'm sorry, you're right. I should never dare make a critical comment about anything 'on here' again in case I offend someone.

And last time I checked, only morons, estate agents and wide boys use the term 'jog on'. I've always taken it as a hallmark of the linguistically inarticulate.

Also, as I didn't know the building like you do, it was impossible to appreciate its wider beauty from a photo of a bland, unremarkable doorway.

You seriously need to have sex. No more posting, find a love mate & then come back.

To be brutally honest with you, yes.

I've had the same experience on one occasion. They're usually really helpful but I had one of the women treat me like I was a thief when I tried to return something faulty. I said I didn't like her attitude & somebody else took over & was excellent. The people queuing behind me even looked at her, like WTF....haven't seen her there since.

Offs

Let the retag stand, and play on!

That's my 2p

@signor yeah I have a lot of memories of sketchy muggings there.

Morbid yeah I knew him pretty well, mostly from SB and Meanwhile2. Have a memory
of a great session down Kennington with him and Rob Dukes there, that is a day I treasure.

I used to skate with Morbid all the time, I spent most of my teenage life at SB.

Did you ever go to Rom skate park? I think I got into more trouble there than Meanwhile with the inbred Essex crowd...such good ol' days.

Maybe I've been on the Net for too long, but my tolerance for people who join a webforum thread with a long running game/joke and don't check the first page is low. It isn't rocket science.

Maybe you take the game/joke to serious. When I search if a I tag has been done before, I search for road names & the road name brought up nothing, the map also doesn't show it. It isn't rocket science to add the name of the road.

^^ Gosh - you covered the miles, didn't you? Luke and I have tagged the current one before, but it is such an amazing building, I think it should stand so someone has a reason to go and visit it.

Damn! I knew I should have done a search for the road before I left. If it can stand then great but I won't get a new tag up before tomorrow.

Yeah, a pretty nice guy. Southsea always had great presence in RAD, he must have liked it.

Dobie Campbell took photos, yeah, was a slalom skater from bitd. Later on a musician, he is one of the best interviewees in Rollin'.

Any one remember Morbid, a Southbank local, used to take pictures for Rad too?

Old: Meanwhile 2 under the Westway (looking more Dad than Rad)
Had many a great day there in the 80s. Skating, BMXing & fighting the local thieves.

New: Me love me car, Me love me bike, Me love me money & ting but most of all I love this road.

hahahahahahaha this clue is brilliant.

Same here, I'm excited about hearing the clue explained.