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Ah if you want a modern mtb then there are plenty of options and I'd say the electric queen is a little bit dated already in terms of modern geo (possibly why they're discontinuing it). It would make a good all rounder option with the rigid fork they sell it with, but if you want a dedicated mountain bike then I'd probably look elsewhere.

Not ridden or even seen an EQ in the flesh but after 2 favourable All City ownership experiences I really fancied one for a 29er based flat bar road bike itch I had.

In the end I decided to do the financially sensible thing and convert a bike I already owned (a stanton sherpa) to what I had in mind for the EQ. It's the dogs dangle. The sort of bike that excels at nothing, but does everything pretty well.

It feels rock solid/tight, tanks along the tarmac, but also handles fireroad and #nogravel but I've also taken it round my local xc singletrack (bedgebury) and whilst the slicks lacked cornering confidence it was still fast and above all fun. I've still got the suss fork, risers and 650b+ wheels/tyres for it so I can convert it between hybrid and mtb modes fairly easily.

If that's the sort of thing you had in mind for the EQ I say go for it. My frankenstan is far and away the most versatile bike I've owned.

Nice one. I'm sure you'll not be disappointed.

I've ditched gravel/cx bikes in favour of a full suss short travel 29er and I couldn't be happier. It does have very effective simultaneous lockout of both shock and fork though which I think makes it the perfect solution (for me at least). Best of all worlds.

Thanks @LeBlaireau You too @Josh I'm really pleased with it.

It's got little bungs for Di2 cables. Don't think the down tube bosses are removable though. At least not without an angle grinder!

[goes to garage for inspection of bosses]

Actually they might be removable. I'll DM you a pic of the post with the cable adjuster thingy removed. They might unscrew, not that I want to wrench mine to find out. Probably worth asking Ison Distribution (the UK all city distributor)...

Absolutely love it. It's not going to compete with a modern carbon road bike for out and out speed up hill but it's still plenty fast enough. But it's a joy to ride and just puts a smile on my face. I've done quite a few longer rides on it now and it's renewed my enjoyment of road riding which was waning in recent years. And I'm also loving the simplicity of 1x.
I'm really happy to have it as my only road bike.
TL:DR - get one.

Take a look at the All City Zig Zag.

Essentially a road bike but with clearance for 35c tyres can handle the odd light excursion off tarmac too.

Hi there.

Yes sorry, all gone now I'm afraid. Good bit of kit if you can find one though. Good luck. D

@BareNecessities perfect seller 👍

It's cheaper for them to make a press fit BB so if they say it's coz of mega-gainz then consumers buy in droves and they make more wonga. Trouble is so many consumers have bought bikes with press fit BBs now and discovered they're actually a crock of shit that the secret is out so demand is high for threaded BB frames.

It's not just that we're all different proportions but we're also all of varying flexibilities.

Your best bet is to borrow a bike with a similar geo, ride it for as long as the lender will tolerate and make some assessments on that. Internet bike fits (ie asking for comparisons or looking at other people's set ups) are notoriously useless as we're all so different biomechanically. Fitness/core strength will also impact what 2 otherwise indentical people will find comfortable.

Truth is you can probably get either the small or the medium to fit by swapping around stems, posts, saddle positions, stem spacers etc.

Being completely honest, it was superb. Can't recommend it enough. Was fast and responsive when you wanted it to be but also did several centuries on it and found it great over longer distances too.

I'm quite short in the torso for my height so you might find the medium will still give you an appropriate saddle height, but a bit more room for your longer torso.

Best thing to do is measure a frame you know you fit well and enjoy riding then compare that to the geo chart.

@phxn I had a small steel Vigorelli. I'm 5'9" but 32" inseam. Layback post, 100mm stem and it fit me like a glove. They do have quite short head tubes though, so even though I usually like a decent saddle to bar drop I felt I needed a couple of spacers under the stem. There's an image of it on the first post of this thread if you want to look at the set up...

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/3277­17/

Hope that helps in some way. Although it might just cause confusion as @Azzurrinick seems to be of similar proportions to me and yet rides a frame at least 2 sizes bigger (all be it a different model frame).

Definitely need a van.

Get a van 👍

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Very interested to see how this all pans out for you. Include pics please. I've got half an eye on the tutto plus as I'm thinking about winter bike options. Enjoy the project.

A big thank you to @horatioeastwood

Bought an item from him on here. Easy to deal with, clear communication. Item was brand new as suggested and it arrived very quickly.

Trusted seller 👍

I have a friend who's tile addiction is so overwhelming he once told the security at Coryton refinery he was doing a sponsored ride along the Thames bank for a children's charity just so he could get a tile inside their compound. After much organisation by the security team, he ended up in full ppe and high vis with a personal convoy with 4x4 vehicles with flashing Amber lights in front and behind him whilst he rode through the plant.

He felt very guilty afterwards and made a sizeable donation to a children's charity. Csb etc.

It's very early days with only one gentle run out so far but I already know it's exactly what I was after. The finish on it is lovely too. Can recommend.

It's close to home for me. And locally everyone's fave backdrop on new bike day.

First spin on this Zig Zag today. Couldn't give it the full beans as I'm recovering from fairly recently broken ribs (shouldn't really be riding TBH, but I couldn't resist a short run out), but I was able to gauge that it's a keeper.

This is my 2nd All City having wanted another for a while since almost immediately regretting selling my Macho Man. Decided I didn't need a gravel bike as much as a road bike, so sold my gravel frameset and retained lots of parts for this build.

Glad you like it. They really are brilliant aren't they! Still missing mine.

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I would have been well up for this. But spannered myself last Friday evening on a largely innocuous bit of trail. Broken ribs take 6 weeks to heal properly I'm told :o/

I've been attempting to (and failing to) sleep sitting upright for the last week. There's no way I can sling a leg over a bike at the mo.