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Its time for me to part with this frame. I have really loved riding it, its one of the nicest steel frames I have ridden; so much so that I subsequently bought a Perthus 753 as well; and then another, and now I have three and its ridiculous.
I have ridden a few centuries on it, including Eroica (sorry) a few times, with the Tricolor kit as pictured. I guess the frame is from 1989-1990, so it seemed period-fitting. Its a nice blend of comfort and zippiness. I would say that, but this is way, way better than the Ribble 653 frames I have had.
It measures 570mm seat tube c2c and 570mm top tube c2c, 156mm head tube. It takes 25c tyres (its pictured with Conti GP Classic 25c tyres) but the clearance at the fork is tight, and a 28c won't fit at the front.
Comes with a Campag Chorus headset and a seatpin bolt.£150
Please don't buy it and turn it into a beater. I live in the frozen north (Hebden Bridge). You'd be welcome to collect, or else I can post.
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I'm selling a ~1978 vintage Falcon road frame and forks, 57cm square CTC, head tube is 158mm. I bought it from the original owner, who had it from Harry Hall in Manchester, nicely dressed up in Campag NR and GS. It's a little big for me, though, and in spite of looking at it for two years, its not getting smaller, nor am I getting taller!
There's no dings or damage, and the paint and chrome is in really good condition... with the exception if the top eyes. I guess the previous owner had some sort of saddle bag that rubbed?
I'm in Halifax, West Yorkshire. Postage is possible, but I do sometimes find myself further afield if you aren't in a rush.
So, for frame, lovely chrome forks and headset, £120, plus postage -
Has anybody got experience with Ellis Briggs, or Paul Gibson? Based in Shipley, nr Bradford, so it won't be convenient for everyone. I've been looking at all the courses above, but they'd all need me to stay in a hotel/B&B for the duration.
The EB course is also reasonable money, but still over a grand.
https://www.ellisbriggscycles.co.uk/framebuilding-course/ -
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Hi bed_bug, sorry for he late response. The kit I bought was exactly what @PhilDAS shared, although you get a print of the jig design as well, should you chose that one.
I got the pieces because they seem to be fairly generic, many (most?) of the jigs use something similar.I've paused for a bit because of life, and also because of the reasons @wildwest and @Biggles567 and @Rik_Van_Looy outline. I'm going to be building with lugs, and from what I am understanding (please correct me if I am wrong), the jig is not supposed to hold the frame in alignment through the brazing process.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding I had made - I have several jig designs on paper where I was looking to make sure the jig was fairly stiff and unlikely to deform.
I now think that the purpose of the jig is to hold the tubes in place accurately, but without any real strength, because that may lead to twisting/misalignment stresses.For lugged frames, I am wondering whether I am better with a surface plate, a BB post and then to use the aluminium kit I got just to hold the tubes pretty loosely. That way I can check frame alignment with a dial gauge after each braze.
The headtube is 156mm end to end. It was OK for me at 185cm, I have slightly longer body/shorter legs. I really liked the way it handled, I had a 120mm stem on there, and that was (for me anyways) the right steering feel. You could get away with a 100mm stem, but shorter than that wouldn't have worked, I don't think, it would have made the steering too twitchy. But that's just my opinion. So, mattyc - if you couldn't have coped with a 100mm stem, you can be confident it was too big!
Anyways, its off to its new owner now :-)