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Hey Velocio, saw the photos - that's a really nice set up and those speakers look great too! I am very keen to hear them now. My context is in art and have fortunately received some financial support for projects, otherwise all this equipment would not be possible for me. I love the Genelecs, must say. There is something about speakers - all their different sizes, ages and characteristics that I find fascinating. Even the small Genelec 8010s blew me away. I simply didn't expect that kind of sound from such a tiny box. For what I needed them for (voice), they did the job extremely well.

I see we both have a penchant for going into lengthy detail with our writing ; ) It brought on a smile seeing your post, kind of reminiscent of myself. All the best with your new speakers!

Really saddened too. He often had me falling off the chair with laughter.

Very curious now about the A14-Ms. Thanks for the tip!

I get what you are saying about speakers out there being ugly (I mean seriously - why yellow and white cones?? Or silver 'plaques' like Eves? It's quite tacky.

When I want to sit in the studio or location, I don't want to be reminded or even have my work to compete with some speaker designer. I want my work to stand sovereign - and the best way to do that is to have non-entity speakers, black boxes essentially...but really good ones.

The Neumanns don't actually look that different to the A14s from the front, except that instead of a (potentially irritating) yellow light, it has a soft golden and white hazy Neumann logo that is almost alive it's so gentle. It's lovely. Like looking at a bicycle and thinking that it doesnt stand out and is probably nothing special, but then discovering very beautiful and rare lugs. That's what I love about some French bikes - totally minimal, until you come up close or just look at the shape from afar. I'm not saying the Neumanns are the most beautiful examples of audio equipment, just that I like things to be subdued sometimes.

I use the Genelecs a lot because I can use different sizes and that allows me to keep a sense of uniformity. I like them as long as they don't stand out. But they still have that 'designery' look I'm not that convinced about. The sound is great though.

Oh, and another thing I like about the Neumanns - that 'KH' comes from Klein + Hummel or K+H. Legendary studio speakers such as the O 300Ds. Neumann took the company over and that's where much of that knowledge and look comes from. Neumann being of course known for microphones. There's a bit of (silly) aura going there for me, haha.

Recently I found a forum where high-end hifi geeks were selling their absurdly expensive passive speakers to get K+Hs.

Ps. Still prefer wooden-looking speakers for home though.

Anyone know the story behind Adam speakers?

The two Berlin business partners apparently weren't getting on, so one left and began another speaker brand.

Any guesses what he called it? Eve!

So I've been told at least.

I am very familiar with the 8040s and 8030s. Also the Neumann KH-120s, which are also outstanding. Haven't heard the SI Audio A14-Ms yet.

The 8040s have a noticeably 'bigger' sound than the other two models I mentioned, but yes- more expensive. Anyway, you could consider the KH-120s too. I could be wrong, but they might fill that gap between the 8030 and 8040. A lot of great reviews out there.

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The Brexit import charges to the EU alone on that amount comes to almost £600! And yet still I'm sorely tempted. Lovely frame- the low trail fork with a nice Reynolds frame is sooooo rare.

Was just about to post myself! Still can't quite believe it. Was listening to Get Out (really loudly..) just 2 days ago. Really sad and shocking.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jul/23/peter-rehberg-underground-music-editions-mego

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Hi mig! What a wonderful and kind offer!! Thank you. This is amazing : )

If things do get desperate, then I'll drop you a message. Perhaps it does work out and I don't need your help. Your offer is very welcome though, just in case!

Oh, and Mainz is almost 'down the road' for me : ) Been there a number of times - it's a nice city!

Thanks. You're right! I did once see an older Thorn I really liked. The TT was horizontal and it looked a bit 80s or 90s. I know that all Thorns are great bikes though, so am keeping an open mind.

Will check out CTC. Thanks for that tip too : )

Thanks for your encouragement!

I see a lot of 'personal collection only' or 'UK posting only'. One didn't even reply when I asked if he would be open to sending a frame to Germany.

I have accepted that this could take a while. I'll save in case a small builder becomes my best option.

Hi HarmanMogul, thanks for all your tips. I really like the Dave Yates! Lovely colour and excellent components. I'm a 56cm (c-t) bike person though and after more of a tourer, but I'm definitely going to start looking at Yates bikes from now on. And your comparison, in terms of value for money, is really helpful!

Thanks edmundro and anidel. That does help!!

Hi .gaz and anidel, thanks for your comments!

I did try to negotiate on the price this morning before taking the six-hour journey and she wrote in polite, but no uncertain terms that the deal was off. She probably has so much interest and maybe she felt she had answered enough questions, that I'm guessing she just wanted to sell to that price. First come, first serve. Fair enough.

I do feel pangs of regret now. But trying to see this positively. Maybe someone in the UK is prepared to send to Germany at some point (I've done my research on the new customs charges and accepted that), or maybe I just save a bit and get a dream bike from a UK frame builder. I've found a few frame builders in Germany, but so far out of my league.

Anyway, for those of you who thought I should have just bought it - please be gentle on me. I guess it's a lesson for life, and who knows - maybe I do find that bike someday...

Thanks for all your help!

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Hi anidel, thanks. Yes, I think my frame of mind on bikes may be different to someone in the UK or US. There simply isn't the variety here. Lots of big heavy tourers and lovely racers. But British bikes, especially a tourer and in my size - rare! Nevermind the American randonneurs. Many online pleas for distribution here though. The prices are clearly better in the UK too, no question.

The owner just measured for me: the chainstay is 43cm long. Is that short for touring or fine?

Hey HarmanMogul, thanks...

Hi picco and AlphaOmega, thanks for your thoughts!

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Hmm, thanks.

Another shot.