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I think that if you are using tape you have to get most of the glue off, as the tape won't stick to old glue well, but I am no expert.

One can use cement to glue tape but its not the point.. Just strip it off with some Xylenol (in a well ventilated area!).
But.. despite all the arguments presented here I don't see why one would still want to mess with tape. To recap:

• Tape is less secure.
  
• Tape dramatically increases rolling resistance.
  
• Tape increases the chance of defect--- a product of more squirm.
  
• Tape is more expensive.
  
• Tape is less suitable to road-side repairs--- removing the tyre can typically case the tape to pull off partially from the base-tape and partially from the rim making it unusable.
  
• Taped tubulars will often fail race tyre checks. There can be some liability involved in their use should things go bad (rolling a tyre).
  
• The use of tape is forbidden by every track I know of (a number even mandate the use of special cements).
  
  

Tape is not even less fuss and not even--- for someones experienced using mastic-- less messy. Tape is just quicker and probably more idiot-proof. Tubulars, however, are NOT for idiots and I'd suggest that one should try to learn the "skill" of proper glueing.

Ones I am looking at all seem to be the aero type.

These, however, will only fit on Campa horse-shoe shaped pedals, They won't fit on anything else...

Great stuff, thanks.

Looking at C Record clips. Will probably risk a small size if those sizes are about right.

Which. For C-Record there were two types of clips. One was "traditional" with two bolts on the front and interchangable with clips from other companies.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cicli-raffa/417585584/

The other so-called "aero" style was variable and specific to Campa.
http://fotos.rennrad-news.de/p/130736

(pictures chosen at random from a search)

Been googling my ass off, but can't find anything. So...

Campagnolo toe clips seem to come in Small/Medium/ large/Extra Large

Anyone know what a Small or Medium would equate to ?

Thank you kindly.

Depends upon which clips one is refereing to.. and depends upon shoe and foot.. but general rule of thumb...

Small := US 6-8.5 / UK 5-8 / EURO 36-39
Medium := US 8.5-10 / UK 7.5-9 / EURO 39-41
Large := US 10-12 / UK 9 - 11 / EURO 41-45
XLarge := US 12-14 / UK 11 - 13 / EURO 46-49

I don't agree with this last bit, and I hear loads of people saying size up with sidis they run really small etc -cycling shoes are supposed to be tight. I wear a 10 in street shoes ( Crockett and Jones or Converse) I wear a 44.5 in Sidis and these fit like they should, a snug fit with almost no toe room.
Trying shoes on when your feet are swollen from a days walking riding whatever is definitely good advice

http://www2.bsn.de/cycling/shoe-sizing.html

*Cycling shoes must be stiff, fit snugly and offer good support. One should not purchase too-small a set of shoes. If one or more toes make contract with the toe-cap when full-weight is applied toe-down then the shoe is too small. Up-until a few years ago, when shoes were made completely of thin perforated leather, it was not uncommon to purchase shoes 1 size or so too small, soak them in bathwater and let them strech to the correct snug fit. This legendary trick has, however, become obsolete by the newer (vastly superior) shoe generation and their use of modern materials. Good shoes feature very stiff and lightweight composite soles (often carbon) and sophisticated designs with natural (often specially treated leather) or synthetic uppers. The uppers are constructed to meet the demands of clipless automatic pedals: so a cart of mules could not pull it off!. Shoes should be purchased to fit at time of purchase. Unfortunately cycling shoes are, generally, not available in different widths [ed: Cycling shoes are a niche market. The concept of proper fit is on the decline in the entire shoe industry. In the hey-day of the New England cottage men's shoe industry a wide range of sizes and widths (some offering even two or more width measurements) where available in an assortment of derby, oxford and monk forms. Men apparently felt left-out from fashion and the market demanded trendy, poor-fitting, light weight, thin soled cheap imports. The trend since the 70s has continued and has taken with it several well-known companies. To become competitive even many well known international bootmakers (eg. Swiss Bally) reduced in the 80s the range of their available widths. New England's Alden, despite their use of 2 distinct width per shoe are typically sold in only a small range of widths. In Germany most shoe stores (including the up-market shops with $400 half-shoes) don't carry much other than a w-i-d-e width! There are, fortunately, a few rare exceptions but the message is that shoes with different widths are on the decline.]. The width should be snug but not tight. Too much sloppiness can effect knee stability and possibly affect the leg muscles due to over-compensation. A too small, or narrow shoe can effect circulation and produce pain and numbness. One should keep in mind, when trying shoes on, that ones feet can tend to slightly swell while in the saddle.

The only way to find correct shoes is by trial-and-error. While one maker might be too narrow another might be too wide. In general, the American/Taiwan/Korean shoes tend to be average to wide and the French and Italian shoes are average to narrow width.

The trend over the last decade is for shoes to be made wider. Since most newer shoes deploy a removeable insole [ed: often being produced in the same Asian factory alongside other U.S. and European branded mass market athletic shoes], sometimes "glued" in, a (very) slightly wider shoe can be compensated with an alternative, perhaps custom thermoplast, insole; but too narrow shoes just won't fit.

Despite a unified shoe-size measure, ones size can vary as much as 1 or more units from maker to maker, model to model and even production run. The number on the shoe is not the guide but the fit! The only way is to try the shoes on in a well sorted shop--- and don't forget to wear your favorite cycling socks.*

If not I have to swallow pride and invoke Le Manfriend who has much larger natural tirelevers called hands... unless the issue here is that Contis need a woman's touch

My wife is better at getting Conti tyres on than I am. Pulling and pushing tyres is not an issue of finger length but perseverance.

Sorry - Conti Sprinters are absolute f*ckers to get on.

Typical English understatement....

(One experiment that I'm planning to use with my next Conti tyre mount will be to rub down the rim with some Tioga "bead wax" )

Just had my tyre jizz sealant out all over Sevenoaks. Am now sitting in a field with my finger over it, hopeful. Oh dear

Good luck. My experience is that its best to ride the tire at a fast pace. It splatters all over the place but it often then stop and seals. The main problem is that the pressure is then a bit low. Take care here to inflate not too much. Our voodoo was to inflate to 5-6 bar, ride and then increase the pressure after a good bit of riding.. When I've used "sealant" I also tended to have a syringe filled with "sealant" (I tended to use Ammonia-dissolved pre-vulcanized latex aka "latex milk") to replentish and refresh things (the fresh Ammonia seems to help).
If the tyre is really shot, one has alu rims once can just--- as long as its rear--- just ride it home... Its not terribly comfortable but we've done it.. 60 km is quite a way so you might want to just jump on a train as its very slow going..

Well, it's passed the tried and tested "do bubbles come out under water test".

That test is not really good since it can miss some very tiny pinhole defects. Germans called these "Schleicher". With these air is very slowly leaked over a period of hours. They are quite common to tubulars. Butyl tyres that will normally hold pressure for weeks go soft as-if they were latex. When one knows one has a "Schleicher" one uses soap and water to find the spot but the "bubbles" are so subtle that if one is not looking explicitly for a fault one can typically miss them.
Assuming even that the inner-tube is "sealed" it still does not mean that its "repaired" as the foreign matter (glass splitter) can still be implanted into the thread. One also does not know how well "plugged" the hole is. The "plug" is not as robust as a real patch. With pinholes its typically OK but with larger defects it can sometimes go "hiss and splutter"..

I've corrected your post.

You have obviously accepted the "Palestinian narrative".. . I find it quite curious how so many that self-indentify with the left can get into bed with Arab nationalism that has its roots and identity within a mutant form of Hitler Fascism. Its really a queer world where I see parts of the left marching hand in hand with MAB and other Muslim Brotherhood franchises while new generation fascists such as EDL, Flams Belange, PVV, Pro-NRW, Front Nationale etc. take up arms in the name of "defending the open society"..

The idea that 'The Palestinian Narrative' is mainstream is about as batshit insane as the ideas contained in the Elder Protocols of Zion.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is widely accepted and quoted throughout the Muslim world. Its even a part of the Convenant of HAMAS.
Not only is the Elders considered truth but every variation of blood libel as well. Every year around Passover articles appear throughout the Muslim world.. and this was no exception.. On March 28, 2013, the Lebanese daily Al-Sharq published an article by Lebanese writer Sana Kojok: “During the Jewish holiday of Passover, which begins today, strange and bizarre rituals are held, according to instructions by the Talmud: Houses are cleared of all leaven, that is, all bread and bread products containing yeast, which are called ‘hametz’ in Hebrew".."Additionally, on the holiday eve, the Zionist Jews eat unleavened bread which during its preparation is mixed with blood – but that blood must be from a non-Jew! This unleavened bread is called ‘matzah’.
Most of the Muslim press claims everything is a Jewish conspiracy including 9/11, 7/7.. even the death of Lady Diana.
One of the closest confidants of Iran's Khamenei, Mehdi Taeb who leads the Ammar Base think tank, not only says that Jews control the US but they do so with sorcery.
Looking for the perfect Eid gift (Eid al-Adha also called Feast of the Sacrifice is the highest Muslim holliday)? Hitler's Mein Kampf is a favorite not just in the Arab world but also Pakistan and India..

And the "Palestinian narrative"? At the UN WHO (World Heath Organization) annual assembly this week with all the problems in the world.. What is the only region to get a slot? Yup.. “Health conditions in the occupied Palestinian territory, including east Jerusalem, and in the occupied Syrian Golan.”

The only difference between terrorist killing & murder is the reaction from the populace, the press, and the government.

That is the function of terrorism. Its theatre for the press and about creating fear. Its effective. The "Palestinian" narrative was accepted on the world stage through its leaders extreme acts of violence without respect for any taboos including raping and castrating small children.
Samir Quantar is a celebrated hero because he crushed a Jewish child’s skull with a rock, because he made the Jewish father watch this bloody deed and then murdered the father. He has become a symbol to the Arab world of their jihad against Israel, against Jews.

Vlad the Impaler (Dracula), however, is, I think, the first modern terrorist.

The following is an account from the Greek historian Chalkondyles of what greeted the invaders:
"He [the Sultan] marched on for about five kilometers when he saw his men impaled; the Sultan's army came across a field with stakes, about three kilometers long and one kilometer wide. And there were large stakes on which they could see the impaled bodies of men, women, and children, about twenty thousand of them, as they said; quite a spectacle for the Turks and the Sultan himself! The Sultan, in wonder, kept saying that he could not conquer the country of a man who could do such terrible and unnatural things, and put his power and his subjects to such use. He also used to say that this man who did such things would be worthy of more. And the other Turks, seeing so many people impaled, were scared out of their wits. There were babies clinging to their mothers on the stakes, and birds had made nests in their breasts."

Dracula too benefited from the press...

Always baffled me that soldiers just walk around there openly. Really easy targets.

Soldiers as targets because they are wearing uniforms... Nuns and priests targets since they are wearing their habits.. Jews targets since they are wearing kipot or hats. Women target since their skirts are too short.. Men targets since they look...
Should they all wear kaftans and hijabs?

I'm trying to decide whether the change from 'completely wrong' to 'utterly incoherent' is an improvement or not. On balance, I think it is.

Let me make is clearer...

In elite competition:
Road: Cement = normal mastic, sometimes with Patex.
Track: Cement = Shellac, TEROKAL 2444, 3M Fasttak

Road tyres get sticky rim cement. The tyres of national track teams get glued with bullet proof, impossible to roll off and lowest possible rolling resistance cement. Typically one can't remove the tyre without damage. With tyres like the Conti Tempos the TEROKAL gets soaked into the basetape and since the cement is flexible the basetape does not seperate as it tends to do with FastTak.

I personally use some ICS "magic potion" that seems to increase the strength of road mastic. With heavier road tyres I can still remove them but with lightweight track tyres I could just as well have used TEROKAL....

Google.
butyl not latex in them.

There are some ProLtd Comps with latex inner-tubes....

Who said the competitions were a bad ride?

They are not a bad ride but not as "plush" as some other tyres of the same width.. FMB Paris-Roubaix and the old Clement Campionato Del Mondo Seta really ride diffently from my Competition ProTection PR tyres.
Handling etc. is, however, great--- made even better by "Black Chili". The Comps are also robust. The silks are nice but they don't seem to like the sight of water.

My biggest complaint against the Conti Comps and Sprinters is that they are a real !#@ to mount. Tyres like the Veloflex Carbon go, in comparison, almost on by themselves...

I just really hope nothing bad happens tonight. There's potential for EDL loonies to hurt someone totally innocent and unconnected.

Then London can burn alongside Stockholm. The social situation that lead to the 2011 London riots have not been solved. Throw in next generation fascists like the EDL and you have a warehouse filled with petrol just waiting for a match...

And the UK wants to provide weapons to the Syrian Free Army. Instead of arming Salafist groups like Jabhat al-Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham they might as well start handing out NLAWs, Javelins and other toys at the local Salafist mosques. Saves a lot of time.. and the poor schleps don't have to run around with rusty meat cleavers...

Bingo- Herne Hill jumble, Veloflex Carbons for £15/ea

Great deal but its not fair to compare used at a jumble sale with new.

Were these used at the track? If so.. How did they get them off without destroying them? All the used team tyres I've ever gotten were road where normal mastic is used..

A number of national track teams, for example, use stuff like TEROKAL 2444.

You still pay for your tyres? What kind of pro are you.

Pros actually do--- when they are allowed--- sometimes buy tyres and other components. The limiting factor is their contract and sponsors.

The price of the tyre has an impact on the economics of this.

Take the Veloflex carbon- if you are paying £80 per tyre then you want to patch them.

I can suggest much cheaper sources.. Bike-palast.com (owned by Rolf Gölz) has them for 59 EURO + flat-rate 12 EURO shipping to UK. Velo-motion has them for 57 EURO + flat-rate 10 EURO shipping to UK.

If on the other hand you are paying £15 per tyre, and you can get 1,000 miles+ out of a Pitstop repair, then that is a different matter.

Unless you are buying them at jumble sales £15 won't get you a tyre worth buying. The Conti Giro is surely not the absolute worst of the "training tyres" but even with sealant they are !@#?.
One of the cheapest tyres I can reccommend is the Conti Sprinter. Typically about 10 EURO more expensive than the Giro its, I think, the cheapest tyre worth riding out there. Is it worth repairing a 30 EURO tyre (Sprinter)? Depends.. If its well worn the answer is clearly, I think, no.. But between there and ...

So what you are saying is that Pitstop is "Pro"?

A lot of teams pro-actively use sealant in the classics. It does not matter to them if the tyres weigh a bit more, if they make a mess and reduce the lifetime of the tyre (most of the formulations harden after a few months). The pro-teams don't repair flat tyres. They also don't reuse them. Tyres are use once consumables. If the team feels that it provides an advantage they will use it. Not all teams, however, find them useful. I think its about 50/50.

For non-pros the issues against using sealant proactively:

• makes a mess and can spray corrosive alkalines
  
• inner-tubes treated with sealant are no longer suitable to patching.
  
• sealant is heavy. Which is better a light tyre with sealant or a heavier without?
  
• sealant only works for holes that are easy to patch
  
• only works to seal holes made with sharp objects such as glass. Pinch flats get little protection.
  
  

Issues against using sealant to repair flat tyres:

• if the sealant does not work you can't patch the tyre anymore
  
• holes repaired with sealant are not as reliable as holes patched with a good patch.
  
• holes plugged with sealant can sometimes "fall out" (I've noticed this mostly on very hot days) loudly spitting sealant out of the hole--- on the few occassions where I have wittnessed this the hole DID get plugged again.
  

Also, Flickr is doing as those in control are trying to do, which is get back into the game. I.e Yahoo. Meaning the whole platform is moving away from those that consider themselves beyond amateurs

There is no shortage of photopraphic gallery hosting available. The oldest player in the game photo.net (which started back in the early to mid 1990s) is still alive and kicking. For pure analog photos APUG has been around for over 10 years and also still keeping to theme... These are just two of the more popular but there are loads more around.. many more focused on a specific genre, technology, country or even language. Many offer peer review beyond the "I really liked your.. Its cute"...

Leightweight competition? Actually conti comp?

Sprinter did well too.

Forget the Lightweight label. Its Conti Comps. They just reported on the tyres they got. If you look at the list you will see that brands such as the Veloflex are not on the list but the Gommitalia.. The Platinum is none other than a Veloflex Servizio Corsa (which is now called the Sprinter).
Even more puncture resistant than the Conti Comps are the Conti Comp ProTection and PR tyres. There are a number of variations of these about since they are special versions for sponsored elite riders and teams.

Here is a good test

http://www.radsport-rennrad.de/sites/default/files/nachrichten/test_technik/reifentestdiagramme.jpg

What one sees is that the Conti Competition is at the top of the list for puncture resistance-- and the Evo CX way down.