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I briefly tried the fake carbon one and didn't get on with it, just felt a little too narrow.
I then tried the 'Chaunts' padded fake SMP and got on pretty well with that, got a few of them - one fitted to Brompton, one fitted to my roadie and a spare.
However, I've just bought a 2nd hand SMP Forma from on here and tried it on my road bike. Although it's unpadded I've found it significantly more comfortable than the fake carbon one, it just feels a touch wider and maybe a slightly different shape. Anyway, it feels better for me than the chaunts, especially after 20-30 miles or so.
Have you tried an aliexpress chaunts one? They're great for the money and I think the padding's a bit firmer than the Hell.
Edit: But the pricing of genuine SMPs is ridiculous. I don't really see how they can justify it and I'd be much more willing to try a genuine one if they were priced in line with basically every other saddle in the world. I don't know how a plastic shell, thin layer of leather and steel rails can cost any more than £70 or so new, but I paid more than that 2nd hand.
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Smashed my mk1 vrs's sump whilst leaving a gated community thing, the little bit the gates join at in the middle. Didn't notice how raised it was until I hit it.
Anyway, I could smell oil within about 20 seconds and pulled over about 5 seconds after the oil light came on, so hopefully the engine's not fucked.
Luckily I was only a bit up the road from the VAG specialist I usually use, so got breakdown recovery to tow it there.
Anyone know roughly how much this is likely to cost me?
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Don't know. Round rails for sure. In the enve tech doc, they mention different rails for oval carbon rails. So I'd assume not.
@negaatio yes, when there's a saddle fitted, the wedges don't sit flush to the sides of the post so the extra length is required.
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I bought one of these in 27.2: http://s.aliexpress.com/yAbmyIvE
It turned up today so I fitted it with a bit of carbon paste in the seat tube and grease on the little clamp wedges.
As it appears to be a copy of the enve post, I had a peek at their guidance with regards to torque. Apparently 8-12nm for the saddle rail clamp for the genuine article. I gave it 8nm and it seems to be holding firm, and 4nm for the actual seat clamp (clamp says max 5nm).
Sat on it for a minute or two bouncing up and down and wiggling around and nothing's cracked or snapped yet. First ride on it tomorrow, so I'll let you know if I'm still alive.
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Cheers for the SMP @ough, lovely to meet you and a very impressive collection of bikes, that tandem's something special :)
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Yeah I think I worked out previously that I'd end up with 60" and 80" with the 58t.
Commuted around London on 84" fixed for a few years with no problems, so I think that'd be ok, but I think I'd prefer there to be a bit less of a jump between the gears.
I'll give it a try with the standard ones anyway. Do I need the whole sprocket 'kit' with the black plate thing and spacers (I think, can't tell from the pics online), or do I just need to buy the sprockets themselves and can re-use the rest?
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The bolt? If so, I'd probably go for the original Elemnt with a bigger screen. Not too worried about the size of the unit and I guess a bigger screen would be useful for navigation.