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Ok here’s one for you.
A friend is in self isolation, she lives in a house with one other person so the new guidelines state that she and the other person should self isolate for 14 days. However, the other person is an A&E doctor, so the self isolation doesn’t apply to them. So does that mean the friend only self isolates for 7 days? Or does the 14 still apply to her?
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Hands up if you reckon the government will u-turn and close schools and maybe even lockdown after the COBRA meeting this afternoon?
Or will be carry on with the Keep Calm and rampantly spread the virus method?
Place your bets!
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Haha I read that with disbelief yesterday too. Pure propaganda.
They’re not testing in the community, there’s no lockdown, so what are they going to do? Arrest people who cough?!
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The paramedics who arrived at my friends last night in Dorset. Only had ill fitting dust masks, pointless plastic aprons and disposable gloves.
They said they were “scraping together the equipment”. Their words.
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Wow very similar. It was my Grandfather’s 90th, he has early onset of dementia but he decided himself that he didn’t want to go and wanted to cancel. My Grandmother and rest of the family still went ahead with it all though.
I can see why it’s heartbreaking for your mother and all involved too.
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Please let me know if you are actually able to find one. Amazon and every supermarket I’ve looked in has been sold out.
On eBay, people are selling £40 thermometers for over £120. One sold for £450!
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Yeh I’m with you.
I worry that as a society we’ve had decades of the media telling us things were an emergency when they actually weren’t. And now there is a situation that is very high risk, a lot of people are just shrugging it off as another overreaction. I’ve noticed this amongst friends and family.
I found myself in this bizarre role reversal with my Grandmother a day ago, because it’s normally her telling me I’m going to die from Ebola/knife crime or whatever the latest Daily Mail headline is. But here I was, trying to get her to take this seriously and make significant adjustments to her daily life. She told me I was just panicking over nothing.
I’ve since had an argument with my family because I think it is totally irresponsible to visit my grandparents who are 87 and 90 years old, when it’s very possible we could pass the virus on to them. They went ahead with a party last night of 50+ people. I didn’t go.
Personally I think this is where the U.K. government response or at least the way they are communicating their choices, doesn’t line up with what is looking very likely to happen in the next few weeks and I think a lot of people are going to be shocked.
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Who else is finding themselves following all these live updates and feeling incredibly anxious? I think I’m going to have to checkout of the newsfeed for the day and detach a little.
I started the day reading this and it’s so very worrying.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/coronavirus-senior-nhs-consultant-speaks-out
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Anyone here having direct experience with the NHS because of coronavirus yet?
A friends wife has been ill for the past 7 days now, high temperature, persistent cough, some shortness of breath. They’ve been in contact with 111 multiple times over the course of the past week and been let down with call backs, told testing was not going to happen because she hadn’t been to any of the named countries on the list (they had just travelled back from Mexico via Heathrow). On Thursday they were told to go to an out of hours doctor - pretty mind boggling decision what with the contagious potential and contradictory advice online - but they followed the advice. Dr there said it could be corona but couldn’t send for test based on her travel history.
Now tonight they’re waiting for an ambulance as the shortness of breath has worsened.
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This is particularly interesting
https://twitter.com/mikeisaac/status/1238604080571772928?s=21
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Careful now, dissent isn’t allowed.
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From the Guardian:
France has announced the closure of all places “non essential” to public life including restaurants, cafes, cinemas and discos from midnight Saturday.
“We must absolutely limit movement, meetings and contacts,” French prime minister Edouard Philippe said on Saturday evening. Food shops, tobacconists, banks and public transport will remain open, he said.
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I hope they washed their hands!
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Maybe in a parallel and kinder universe this would be possible:
https://novaramedia.com/2020/03/12/make-private-hospitals-public-now/
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Sure.
“Our aim is to try and reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely; also, because the vast majority of people get a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it.” — Sir Patrick Vallance.
Some videos of this same line:
https://inews.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-sir-patrick-vallance-covid-19-herd-immunity-2449703
David Halpern has also been on the news talking about herd immunity:
https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1238097745971421184
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I was hoping you were going to calm my anxiety tbh.
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Lol. Same. (See above)
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Pretty mad to me that the people questioning the U.K. government response, which is different than any other western country, are just met with “stop being an armchair know it all”. The WHO is not an armchair pundit.
It’s just a coincidence that this same government and its figurehead Boris Johnson, has spent the past three years promoting individualism and banging the drum of “No one tells us what to do. We do it alone.”
I have no idea how people can believe that politics just vanish in a crisis.
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The social distancing measures that they have advised and the track and trace that the U.K. stopped doing as of Thursday.
“You can’t fight a virus if you don’t know where it is,” the WHO’s director general, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said at a briefing on Friday. “Find, isolate, test and treat every case to break the chains of Covid transmission. Every case we find and treat limits the expansion of the disease.”
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Well even the WHO doesn’t understand why we’re the only country banging on about herd immunity.
So I think it’s fair to understand why plenty of people are concerned.
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Another point that seems to be controversial is that the U.K. has stated they are now only testing hospitalised cases.
That’s the opposite of what the WHO advised yesterday.
So from now on the daily number of new cases reported is going to look much lower right?
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Thanks, this is exactly the kind of thing that’s helpful to read.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/coronavirus-uk-strategy-deaths
What a time to be British.
https://twitter.com/hancocktom/status/1239669605586604032?s=21