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Legend, thanks!

Covers off my curiosity, think Force 1x12 electric will be too spendy but good to see those E13 cassettes coming.

Etap is spendy, more interested in whether Apex/Rival/Force will happen next year along with some 10-3x cassettes.

SRAM road 1x12 in 2019, will it happen? Don't care for a 1x discussion :)

@Alb I know we're just strangers on a forum but as an insider could you blink twice for yes, once for no..

Fixed gear, SS or both? The Vigorelli won't run SS without an adapter on the back, a bit messy.

Gazetta and Tipo Pista are currently discounted quite heavily on Winged Store.
https://www.wingedstore.com/complete-bikes-129 Code BF18 for an extra 10% off.

If you like the 3T enduro, how about the Ribble GCR SL?

Looks interesting but I'd probably use it for road only (have CX bike) for the occasional race and generally with panniers and mud-guards.
https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cgr-sl/

Wish they'd put the pannier mounts on the more road orientated models.

That's really handy to know! So much better - will sit this one out.

Well if it was £20 I'd take a punt, have nearly all the parts from the spares bin to build it up into a pub/gravel bike. Happy to do the work myself but will probably wait for another to come along.

At the risk of someone buying it, going to ask anyway, would anyone take a punt on this? , it's super ratty/dented including a hacksaw cut (spidey senses going off) along with stuck seatpost + bent seatpost clamping area but they seem pretty industrial in weight/thickness and would cope (?). I'd take a punt but the postage makes it a bit spendy to risk.

Need to play with this also, as 2cm less stem doesn't = 2cm less reach http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/stem.php

I'm stretched out causing hand pain and rolling shoulders. Should have had a proper bike fit instead of using size guides! Will have a look at those drop bars, don't mind spending a little bit of money to get through Winter on it.

100mm/-6 on there & 3T Ergo bars which are apparently notorious for being longer reach than stated. Loads of spacers, at a guess 40mm. So 3cm back and 2cm down would be possible, followed by about 1cm back with different bars.
I could also try an 80mm stem, 2cm down and different bars.

I'm riding the 4S 55.5 & ideally need to get my hand position back 5cm & down 2cm which is just not really possible and has not been advised by the fitter - which is why I'm interested in other do-it-all (read: I want it all) framesets.

Back on topic, just spotted the new PX London Road SL but it's a bit porky and might not support Di2..
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRPXLRSL/planet-x-london-road-sl-frameset

edit: post-mount brakes, ffs.

feeling hollow inside :(

Still getting to the bottom of this, he wasn't a fan of the 4S 51 either. I think an effective top tube closer to 53cm would be preferable for me. He moved the seat back 2cm and the shifters 3cm closer to the seat, so my hands were shifted back 5cm and down 2cm.

Going to try a stumpy 70mm stem and shorter reach bars to get through Winter and try to find an inspiring frame.

Thanks again!
Good fit on these, nice and long for the skinny cyclist.

Apart from probably needing spacers for the rear (135mm), I don't see any others.

Need to dig into the fit report a little more but think I need a short reach for my height. Height corresponds with the 55.5 but stack / reach is closer to the 51. Think Strael might be my best match with the Regular/Tall geo options.

Also finding it hard to get exited about anything else. I like my 4S but after a bike fit, I've basically been told it's never going to work in any size, need rid.

What's so wrong with selling decent frame sets that have rack/guard mounts, BSA bottom brackets & modest tyre clearance that are not super heavy tourers.

Did a bit more research and found the Boardman ASR & Rose Pro Cross Randonneur which looks good but falls down on BB and is bike only.

New 4S sounds like an easy choice..

found bike frame yet?

Have a similar want for it all, Mason Definition2 is winning. Have on the list..

Fairlight Strael v1 or v2.0
Ribble CGR Carbon or AL (this years)
Decathlon RC 520 - full bike
Kinesis RTD

I will be at LMNH Old Street between 12:00-13:00(maybe later) on Wednesday 21st

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You need both sides? Can have a look in a bit

The vultures have circled :)

Let us know the price list. I could even collect and post to @Rodolfo as I need to send him something already.

On that note, I've some interest in the frame/headset only but to be up front, it's just curiosity at the moment..

LMNH would be great, like a random week night that works with you

Agree, the hot pink! wish I'd had the guts to order, looks awesome.

Apols, sent a PM, going to keep in the parts bin but have a bump..