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Is there a way of representing a 2x2 logic matrix within a flowchart without repeating a question in 2 separate locations? I've got 2 binary questions that I need to ask, but putting them in either order collapses the possible paths down to only 3 of the 4 possible outcomes for the 2 questions.

I don't agree with @frank9755, but he's not shit-stirring, it's useful opinion to see.

I completely agree that it's a useful perspective and I'm glad that it's being presented. Of course it's not something to take lightly or to make assumptions on others' behalf (in either direction). I guess my rebuttal boils down to "if you're not in favour of fighting now, then when?" Pacifism is a reasonable viewpoint, but if you think that fighting has any valid applications, then surely this is what it is for (assuming that our views align to some degree on the impossibility of an acceptable diplomatic resolution to this).

John Tomac will fight you over that.

What would you do? If I could, I'd get away. I wouldn't get jingositic about wanting to give the Ruskies a bloody nose with my Molotov cocktail against a tank

And yet people are preparing to do exactly that. Not only that, people are returning to the country to fight, so your inclinations here don't really carry much weight. If you're bemoaning them having to fight tanks with Molotov cocktails presumably one solution is to arm them better.

War is shit. Fighting one isn't necessarily the worst thing though.

Why would it be different in Ukraine? [from a poll run in the USA about war in Europe]

So your question is why would people feel differently about the invasion and potential occupation and/or erasure of their own country than they would about a war being waged on another continent?

Carbon dioxide is also soluble in water so perhaps has been reabsorbed? As above, atmospheric pressure is could well be a factor. In the middle of the recent storms I noticed the difference in some ziplock bags that I'd sealed some time before.

I don't think that most Ukrainians would see the return of (at least) the territory invaded during this conflict as a "concession" from the Russians. Even the withdrawal of support from militias in the Donbas would barely be a concession, it's just falling into line with basic, modern, functional statehood i.e., not laying claim to the territory of other states.

There's a strange undertone in this thread of deploring the Stop the War stance, while still seeming to know exactly what is best for Ukrainians. It may not be possible to reclaim Crimea and parts of the Donbas from effective Russian control, but it's still abhorrent to say "it's ok, you've only got to give up these additional sections of your country that have just been seized."

Like it or not, international pressure will be very hard to ignore, since sanctions seem to be effective in that they're doing severe damage to the Russian economy. Third-parties including the EU and the US, could still keep these in place, even if Ukraine and Russia did negotiate a cease-fire, but it's likely that future actions on that front would be discussed with Ukraine.

The strength of resistance (including civilians) suggests to me that acceptable terms of peace wouldn't give too much, if anything, to Putin/Russia. But who knows how long that opinion (if held) would last.

I think international opinion will be quite important here. Ukraine's government can argue for whatever settlement they feel strikes the right balance, but I think international opinion will be strongly against conceding anything at all (and I wonder if negotiations might be used to revisit the question of Crimea). The relative inaction by the West to the annexation of Crimea is quite shameful, but it was the response to a (arguably) rational act of Russia expanding to gain a warm-water port. This invasion is, in contrast, completely unjustified in terms of strategic objectives and is clearly solely politically driven by Putin. As such, I can't see any of the gains that it has made being allowed to stand if it comes to negotiations.

No worries, I'm after one to use with a 5-speed block anyway.

GLWS

I may need a 27" rear wheel, but it would need posting. Has that one been redished specifically for single-speed use?

I was wondering about wet&dry paper or scotchbrite. Alternatively I wonder if Scalextric/Model Railway track rubbers might be up to the job, or even one of those dual compound pencil/ink erasers.

£10k!

From the point of view of the average Ukranian civilian, the quicker it was over, the better.

Do you think that's what they'd say?

I think what you're not factoring in is the effect on Russian public opinion of Putin failing to secure a fast victory and of thousands of young Russian men being returned ro Russia in boxes. Nobody celebrates the loss of life on either side, but Putin has seemed immovable so far because he has been seen to create stability rather than prosperity. If his judgement is shown not to be sound and it costs Russian lives (during the invasion and the occupation) then he may be ousted.

I'm pretty sure it's actually quite a big bit of diplomacy, but I agree inasmuch as this wasn't a situation where you have to patiently wait out the bullshit to find things you agree on, this was just propaganda and trying to justify an illegal invasion.

STW?

Putin will control Ukraine

I think it's realistic to think that Russia will occupy Ukraine at some point. The question is for how long. Occupations are notoriously hard and Ukrainians have shown themselves to be remarkably brave and united in resisting so far. If there is an occupation then the body-bags will trickle back steadily to Russia and at some point I think the Russian people will have had enough.

Closer and closer to £7k. Keep it going!

Made it! Now let's get it to £8k.

Is this being shared on other bike forums?

Thanks for getting back on this. Undibs from me. GLWS

Ah, I see. The EU has decided to "finance the purchase and delivery of weapons". That makes more sense since the EU doesn't have its own armed forces and stockpiles of weapons.

I'm not sure that the EU is doing anything in that line. Individual countries are, but they remain in control of their defence policy AFAIK.

An Alivio 104BCD triple crankset 22-32-44, chainrings unused, cranks lightly used. Alloy, a bit weighty, might be good for a beater (matches the Hope chainring...) £8

How long is this? Also, seconds on the hope chainring.

I don't mind that, at least it's a fun idea. It would look substantially better if the saddle was raised a bit.

Excellent work! Donated.

I am not sure I support a NATO overt action; but we must also ask if not now, when?

I think the answer is (and has always been) "when a member state of NATO is attacked". My understanding is that those are the terms on which NATO exists. It is a deterrent to its members being invaded, not a global peacekeeper.