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Must have been you as I could definitely hear your BB 😅

Yeah I’m a big fan of discs but definitely the early 2000’s bikes don’t lose much to modern ones to be honest. In fact I doubt you will be able to get Sram AXS batteries when they are as old as my CAAD (18 years old). At which point you will likely have to bin it or do a hack to get it to work.

Funny how good mechanical shifting is when you route cables externally, it’s only when you try to route them through headsets it becomes problematic and leads to electronic groupsets which cost an arm and a leg.

Nice bike btw. One of my favourite Campagnolo eras was the 11sp before they went with the weird 4bolt cranks. Love silver spokes/hubs with carbon rims.

Thanks! Yeah I was actually! I had someone on my back wheel for a bit who had a ticking noise, also were you wearing a white jersey with bits on it? If that was you I peeled off when you took a turn as I was trying to take it easier as I’m recovering from an injury.

Thanks all! Yeah originally the LB pads were felt pretty good, but that was initial impressions riding around the car park and the city. At higher speeds and descents they needed a fair bit of hand pressure to get it to stop. I heard a lot of good things about the Campagnolo ones, not sure about rim wear but they feel actually quite soft. In any case a new rim is cheaper than new teeth…

Although the blue pads matched the frame, the red pads now complete the team USA colours… 😂

I’ll probably also follow up at some point with a review/thoughts on the EE replica brakes. So far they are actually pretty good, with these pads they really feel similar to alloy rims.

Thanks! Yeah it was taken in my car park with just the fluorescents, no reflectors or flash or anything.

Slight update, changed the stem back to a -8º as the -17º was just a bit excessive. Also swapped out the Light Bicycle pads for some Campagnolo Red pads... massive difference. I rode the LB ones for a while and was never really impressed with their bite. Rode them through a downpour and they didn't feel much different when wet to be honest and cleared water quickly. However the Campag pads have significantly more bite, slightly noisier but I do love that turbine winding down sound you get from carbon clinchers...

Also I took some time to take some better photos...

Couple of new pics

Heya currently have a pair of GP5000 black at the moment, but prob will go for some nice tan walls at some point. Probably a bit fatter as the bike will clear 28-29mm

The front wheel built pretty easily, despite the finish being a little rough this was definitely one of the better, more round rims I've built. It came up to even tension quite quickly and was pretty easy to true. Tensioned to about 100kgf all around.

Rear one was a bit tricker, but this was the second time I've done this. I decided to go with 3x on the rear DS and radial on the NDS. Drive side done

The way I have built the rear is something I've read about in the past and learnt to do. As the rear wheel is so heavily dished, it can be tensioned about 70-80% DS only first, then a radial true is done as the majority of the radial tension comes from these spokes. After that, the NDS spokes are tensioned bringing the rim towards the middle and also truing it laterally at the same time. I was surprised how quickly I was able to build these as they were really quite straight and true.

You might be wondering why I have a 32h hub but a 24h rim, as this is a 16:8 the DS is effectively one half of a 32 spoke wheel. The NDS spokes skip every other hole which gives you 8. I decided to go heads in/elbows out as this gives you a slightly higher bracing angle and more lateral stiffness.

All done!

Ok so bit of an update. It's wheel build time

Here are the specs

• Novatec A171SB Front 20h
  
• Novatec F171SB Rear 32h
  
• Hal0 Devaura rims (These are rebranded Kinlin XR-31T) 20h front and 24h rear (16:8 lacing)
  
• Sapim Race silver spokes w/ brass nipples
  
  

The plan is to lace them 20h radial front and the rear as a 2:1 spoke arrangement with 16DS spokes and 8NDS spokes. I've built a 2:1 rear wheel before and liked how the spoke tensions are much more even than a conventional wheel. This is more of an issue with 130mm spaced 11sp wheels, as this is typically the worst wheels commonly seen for DS/NDS spoke tension balance.

A conventionally spoked wheel of this type has NDS spokes about 40% of the DS which means you end up with potentially spoke tensions of 50-60kgf which is really quite low. A 2:1 lacing means you basically double this so it's more like 80% or thereabouts.

The main aim for the look of these is inspired by 90's Campagnolo type stuff, which is why I chose those hubs. I would have loved to have a pair of vintage Shamals/Ventos or similar but these rims are not really available new. So the closest thing commonly available are the Kinlin XR-31T.

A few observations on the rims. The finish on the visible parts is really quite nice, not a big fan of the Halo logos but they are lasered on but not too obvious. The inside however looks a bit roughly finished, the area where they are sleeve jointed had too much gunk and had to be chipped away at as it was interfering with the nipple seat. Funnily enough the Chinese on the sticker says "two left one right" which technically is wrong as a 2:1 wheel has 2 right spokes for every left.

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Last chance before eBay!

Updated and price drops

2nd dibs if this falls through

Items added

Dibs on the unpainted fork if not already taken

So mid/late last year I did a taster session at HHV and decided to just chuck on some drop bars. I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do with this bike

Although quickly became kind of hooked to riding at Herne Hill and ended up going to the skills session week after week to learn the ropes. Eventually I found that the 47x16t was fine for street but I was completely spinning out before my max speed so an upgrade was in order. Ditto with the bars, the ones I had were just some leftover compact drops, a bit too wide at 40cm.

I ended up sticking a 14t on the back to get roughly 90 gear inches so I was maxing out in the sprints 56km/h @ 130rpm or thereabouts. The drops I stuck on are BLB alloy 36cm drops which are really deep, gives a super aggressive position. Although I'm not a big guy with not a lot of power, my advantage is I'm pretty flexible so don't have any big issues with such large drop.

So this began when I spotted this frame on this forum going for quite cheap. I used to have a street fixed bike back when I lived in Sydney a while back and kind of missed it so bought it on a whim. Combined this with a cheap second hand wheelset and some leftover parts.

Great thing is this is a true track frame meant for the velodrome, super steep head angle and tight geometry, barely fits 25mm tyres and massive amounts of toe overlap: just perfect! Supposedly it may be a Donohue made frame for Graham Weigh, in any case it's Reynolds 853 with an aero style downtube and the frame weight is a featherlike 1.68kg and forks 0.55kg.

Mockup with some pursuit bars and an old Look ergo stem I had lying around... looks kinda odd to be honest!

This thread will tell the story of how this bike got me riding at HHV and how it's changed over the past 6-9 months.

And here's a shot with the Athena groupset (Both Athena group sets from two era's combined!). I've always liked Campag stuff, and to be honest the quality of the components tends to be noticeably better than Sram or Shimano. The shifters still worked perfectly, considering they are 10+ years old. I haven't used Sram or Shimano shifters that felt this good at the same age. Also I forgot how good the rim brakes are from this generation.

A few notes, the Athena rear derailleur is short cage and can't handle more than the factory 12-29t cassette. This is an 11-32t and it was obvious it was struggling to shift the whole range. Surprisingly the 52/42t rings shifted perfectly fine with the 11sp chain.

Next steps, have to sort out the wheels. Needs to be silver/polished rims, hubs and spokes.

I got a 115mm Centaur ISO Square taper BB to mount them on, I had one of these spare as it fits my DA NJS track cranks too. Drive side mounted a little close roughly chainline of 42.5mm so decided it was good... However once I mounted the NDS I discovered it just kisses the chain stay... it only needs a few mm to clear. From what I could tell from googling 115mm should be about right, but I guess these tapers are 30+ years old so likely worn and don't sit correctly.

Anyway, I had a 110mm JIS BB sitting around, JIS tapers are a bit fatter than ISO so normally they don't go in as far and the crank sits further out. However this sat quite nicely and looks like the taper went well in with only a few mm to spare

And voila! The NDS clears by a good 3mm. the 110mm JIS is actually asymmetric from what I can tell anyway so the NDS sits a bit further out. This gives a chainline of about 43-44mm so close enough.

Few updates
Polished the cranks as usual... They came up quite nice. Sadly had to sand away the Campagnolo logo, but have replaced it with a decal. These decals are quite nice and seem not that noticeable

Items pickup Elephant and Castle or post for a £5

Sram Rival/Force Mini groupset £150 for the Shifters + F/R derailleurs
Rival Shifters were bought from new. Only about 200-300km on these so basically new £100
Force 22 Rear Derailleur medium cage £45
Force 22 Front Derailleur braze on w/ chain catcher£25

Campagnolo Daytona Cranks 172.5mm 135BCD. These are in great condition, tapers look barely used and very few scratches considering their age. £30

Campagnolo Centaur Cranks 170mm 135BCD w/ 53/39t 10sp Rings. These have some heel rub, scratches from use, some minor gouging on the NDS crank. Chainrings are worn. £25

Campagnolo 135bcd rings 52/42. These are the older -AS- chainrings (8 or 9 Spd?) teeth have plenty of life left in them, guessing around 80%. They also work great with 11speed chains as I had this working previously. £20. Can do a discount if you buy w/ one of the cranks

Spa Cycles TD-2 165mm Cranks 110BCD 50/34t. These were bought from new and used for only a few hundred km. Near new condition as barely used. These retail for £69 new so asking for £45

Hope QR Skewers. These are the Mk2 versions and suit 100/135mm spacing. Space between dropouts is 150mm so will do 135mm with 7mm thick dropouts. Great condition for the age, only minor scratches but smooth mechanism £30

Continental Grand Prix TT 23mm. These were bought NOS and used at HHV for a few hundred km. Still have some of the moulding marks and really good condition. Selling due to not fitting my bike, on an 18mm internal rim they come up at 25mm. SOLD £30 pair

Shimano PD-R550 Pedals. Good nick, smooth bearings. I pumped them with new grease about 9 months ago £20

Handlebars from top to bottom

• 26mm clamp 42cm width Genetic Heritage classic drop handlebars. New and never used £20
  
• 31.8mm clamp 38cm handlebars £5
  
• 31.8mm clamp 40cm Ritchey Streem III ergonomic handlebars £10
  
• 26mm clamp TT bars and aero clip ons Free to a good home pickup only
  
  

I left London Fields around 8:30 which is a bit later than I planned as well, mostly due to my Wahoo being annoying and not loading the route. Generally went fine, I went solo but managed to join a club group from St Albans, and then later on in the last 1/3 joined a random group who were doing a return trip. Got there around 3:30am for the sunrise. Had a full English then kept on buying cups of tea so I could stay inside as it was pretty cold until full sunrise. Had a nap on the beach and then got the coach back. Luckily this time I waited to load my bike until the truck was full so when we got back to Millwall it was one of the first out. Overall had a good ride, apart from some persistent back pain related to something else.

undibs - glws!

I have the same situation and aren't that happy with the decals you get on the internet. Where did you get the vinyl negatives from?