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Thanks for the tip! I just looked at some of the old Campagnolo catalogues and I can see the older early 2000's Mirage/Veloce/Centaur calipers go up to 52mm. Should be enough for the back but the front is short by about 4mm so might not be enough... Would have to file the slots. Maybe something for me to consider!
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Slight update. I stuck on some wheels from my Cannondale to do a test fit...

Front wheel. With a 700c wheel the drop is about 55mm

Back wheel. Only the left side is a bit too high... but more 49-51mm reach

And my guess it is actually a 27" wheel frame...ergh. The calipers are only a few mm short but a 27"(630) rim would be just about right. Anyway thinking of several options:
- Change the brakes to medium drop (it's about a 55mm drop)
- Get offset brake pads (ordered some on Ebay already to see)
- Swap the fork out as the front is longer and the file out the brake arm slot at the rear as it's only a few mm short
Bit of a shame as I love the look of these Chorus calipers.
- Change the brakes to medium drop (it's about a 55mm drop)
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Not at all OTT :D Im thinking of using this electro etching method to get back the Campag logos after I sand/polish it back. Will have to do a dummy test first though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTgfWIMxz2M
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So I spotted this and decided to make an offer on it as it was my size (52cm) and the electric blue paint job caught my eye. The seller claimed it was a Brian Rourke which was refinished by Dave Hinde, the giveaway was that the seat stays wrap around. Also that the tube set was likely 531 or some sort of Columbus, so I decided to give it a punt.
After coming back from holidays it was at my house and I unpacked it immediately and gave it a Quick Look. Generally checked out, Campagnolo dropouts, looked like a high quality frame with nice bits, no dents only some minor rust and some chips. Gave it a polish and the paint came up really nice. Not sure of the vintage, I would have guessed 80's as it has small cable stops that don't take normal 5mm cable ferrules. Rear spacing is 130mm, but could have been cold set? Seatpost is 27.2 so likely it's a lightweight frame.

Lo and behold the frame is pretty light, 1.9kg frame and 668g forks. So could be some kind of Reynolds 531, maybe 531c?


I bought the frame over Christmas and in the meantime also got a groupset to match this. Main concept is to build this fully or mostly out of vintage 80's/90's parts. Probably Campagnolo or similar, lots of chrome. My favourite era of Campagnolo stuff, where everything was polished and sinuously shaped. I've always found this era of Campagnolo stuff a bit mysterious, as none of the parts are ever labelled like Shimano stuff! And they all look quite similar so very easy to confuse between groups.
Not dissimilar from my 1991 Cannondale 2.8 build https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/386203/ but this will be a proper vintage bike rather than a Restomod
Here's some inspo shots


Probably can't afford Delta brakes though....
In any case I managed to score a 2nd Gen Chorus 8sp groupset. This has the early model Ergopower shifters with the pointy hoods.

Generally working condition, cosmetically has had some use. As part of this process, I had a lot of spare time over Christmas to research and went through a lot of old Campag catalogues from the 90's. It appeared to be all matching and the seller said it was taken all off one bike. Going from the catalogues it looks like it's probably 1995

Plans are to rebuild the Ergopowers, get the shifting sweet, build some wheels, strip and polish the crankset and fill in the missing bits like seat post and headset.
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Ah I just realised that is the price for a NOS one in the classifieds atm. Yeah that is a good buy actually, if you are ok with the gearing limitations of the 11sp group sets.
It’s also the older pre-2015 one, I have both and the newer 2015+ ones shift a bit better but not a massive difference to be honest.
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Yeah brakes you could prolly sell for £40-50. Chainset you could probably get used for £100-150 I think. These are my guesses for the 11 speed stuff. Is that price for Chorus 12 new? That is not a bad price and I’d prolly go for that than bother with the old stuff, depending on what your budget allows. You can probably always resell the 11 speed stuff at a later date for not much difference anyway.
As for the cables, the biggest difference is the cable ends as ones intended for Shimano/Sram have a slightly bigger head, they don’t seat perfectly into the Campag shifter and may catch as the cable spool goes around. You can file them down but the genuine ones are not expensive so I wouldn’t bother.
Personally I’ve found the genuine Campag cables and outers do give the best results as the cables and the outers are matched, particularly if you get the full set with ferrules etc. make sure you cut with a disc cutter or file the cable outers ends flat for best results.
One weird bit of useless trivia is the Campag gear cables have strands woven in an anticlockwise direction. Not sure if this makes any difference tho :)
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Ha yes good point, Ultrashift is awesome.
Mind you if you are patient enough you can sometimes get a good price on some of the 11 speed stuff second hand. There is a lot of it on the market. I recently got a complete 2015+ Chorus 11 groupset for £260 on eBay. Needed a little bit of love and had to replace the FD but no issues other than that.
Although pricing with Campag stuff is a bit odd at the moment as sometimes the 12sp individual parts can be cheaper than 11.
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The annoying thing about Campagnolo is that they have a lot of quirks, one being that the Potenza group is an orphan and the deraillers/shifters are only officially compatible with Potenza parts, which could be an issue in the future for spares.
One thing to ask is what do you actually want to achieve? The advantages of the 12 speed groupsets, apart from the extra gears is they have more options with lower gearing. Chorus 12 is also a bit lighter too. Occasionally you can find the whole groupset brand new at a discount as less people are buying mechanical rim brakes groupsets these days.
Alternately have you thought of Chorus 11 or Record 11? In particular the post-2015 models. Still lots of these floating around on eBay, parts availability is good and interchangeable between Chorus/Record/SR. These are even lighter than the 12 speed and on Ebay are not too expensive. They are a bit more limited in gearing choices though.
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Here's what the new forks and groupset look like. Also managed to bag a matching NOS Campagnolo Hiddenset headset, they stopped making these a while ago. The UD layup of the fork I assume were intended to be painted as they aren't laid up for appearance, but I kind of strangely like the random patterns you get with the layup and the bare bones functional look
Also the -17deg stem is back... I was recovering from an unrelated back injury (gym related I swear!). The bar height on this doesn't seem to make a difference to me, have taken it on a non-stop 100km ride and didn't have any issues.






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Also managed to snag a Columbus Futura Calliper SL Fork on the forum, although painted in dark blue, this is a full carbon fork and supposedly quite light compared to the alloy steerer model that is on the bike now.

Stripped back to bare carbon... and lost about 35g just in paint! There were actually 2 paint-jobs in there...

Some slight chips/imperfections which I filled with epoxy

Then repainted in 2K clear coat matt


Once I cut the steerer I dropped another 24g, so in total lost 54g from repainting it... -
The groupset looked like it had been taken off a bike that had a fair bit of use and had been store outside or in quite moist conditions. Shifters still worked perfectly fine but I made the jump and decided to pull these apart and rebuild them. I'm somewhat mechanically inclined and have rebuilt Sram 11 speed levers, there is a fair bit of info out there on how to do it too.
This is the left lever disassembled. Actually quite interesting, you can see the little round plate in the middle with the divots, the toothed plate with the two ball bearings fits into this and gives the correct stops for the shifter. Quite an interesting way to do this, as it's different from Sram and presumably Shimano as they rely on a ratchet and pawl style system. This gives it the distinctive clack sound.

Also what's interesting is that the central shaft the shifter mechanism pivots on runs on 2x ball bearings inside the shifter.

Right hand side shifter disassembled. You can see the shifter plate is different as it has a lot more indents and the shape is different, the toothed plate has springs for the ball bearings.

Now regreassed and (almost) like new. Just need to add new hoods. These were surprisingly easy to disassemble, only odd tool was a T15 driver which I had to buy. Compared to the Sram doubletap design, this has a few more parts but the mechanism seems a bit more robust.
I managed to wear the toothed gear on my Sram Force 22 shifters after about 5 years to the point that it would misshift, the ball bearing and indented plate system seems to be a lot smoother as all the Campag shifters I've ever used have been more long lasting.


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Minor update....
So I saw this for sale and I couldn't resist. I've always had a soft spot for Campagnolo, one of my first serious road bikes had the 2010 Athena groupset.


This is the later post-2015 Chorus groupset, more or less the same as Record and Super Record but with slightly less carbon. Still quite blingy though...



Looking for a Campagnolo Seatpost similar to this. Thanks!
