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I had picked up shimano was having a 'mare on the distribution front. Think I am going to sit on my hands until the Di2 R8000 become available

@coldharbour enjoying the updates - thank you.

More generally has there been any move on when Ultegra R8000 is likely to become available? because my Isen is going to be a wall hanger until then

https://youtu.be/RPjggN-KByI

this thread is relevant to mah interests

https://youtu.be/p1lbjNVbGe4

ohh, tempting, any more photos?

close ups of seat tube cluster, head tube and brake bridge would be good

would need you to post to london?

Frame has sold, so academic now. It was a very nice paint job but the lack of provenance on the ebay listing concerned me....

@Dammit and @*matt. Thanks both

@dammit would you mind spelling out your point for the slow of thinking?

Do any of the Serotta experts have a view on whether the fork on the frame linked to upthread https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152618468250 is OEM or aftermarket.

Would a splatter paint job be my choice - probably not

Do I think the frame would look better in person - definitely

Was the use of "bad" in reference to colourburn Inaccurate, yep most definitely. Let's just say I think it will be possible to appreciate colourburn's work objectively regardless of whether it fits with my aesthic biases.

Yeh, not loving the photos.

Find it hard to accept colourburn does bad work so gonna withhold judgement

What's the plan for it post studies?

Looks interesting- suspect it needs to be seen in person to really appreciate the paint.

I do believe you are in the wrong thread dear boy

Tahoe is a fair drive from San Francisco and not worth going purely for roadie riding (top fun with a MTB though)

@chez_jay suggestions are on the money. The other ride to consider would be to get to Napa and ride the foothills either side the actual valley - North downs style rolling hills and very pretty at this time of year

I would check out prices in Berkeley as well - you can catch the ferry across the bay very easily.

even though SF is friendly for non-drivers, a car is very useful if you want to get outside the city limits.

Argon is a better insulator than air so i doubt it is an instrinsic property of the gas that is cooling the weld better than the surrounding atmosphere. The argon flow might be cooler than the surrounding atmosphere as it is decompressed from the bottle...

My guess would be the non-reactivity of the Argon being the driver for the nice clean welds.

much appreciated

@coldharbour

Couple of questions

Do you have a guesstimate for frame delivery?

The mounting of dynamo lights onto PDW fenders ala jakes all season bike. Any chance of making this available as an after market kit for isen frames?

Cheers

The insurer was Protector, a Norwegian insurer. It is regulated in Norway but as an EEA insurer was passported into the UK. It is heavily reinsured with Munich Re

The reinsurance is a good thing given Protector appears to be unrated - I am surprised that an unrated insurer was considered acceptable security....

The victims have a clear cause of action against RBKC. The insurers will manage their claims.

I would have thought on the liability side, their primary cause of action will be against KCTMO and I doubt the buildings insurance sold by Protector covers the liabilities of KCTMO. Unless KCTMO bought Directors and Officers cover or similar claims made against KCTMO are potentially an uninsured liability.

The real legal battle should exist only between the insurers suing under a right of subrogation and various contractors or advisers (all backed by their own insurers)

Agreed in theory but on the assumption that the contractors and sub-contractors PI policies would be on a claims made basis - there will only be subrogation possible if the contractor that did the work still exists and buys PI cover.

Also - I would be surprised if the PI policies bought have anything like sufficient indemnification to cover the claims arising from this.

looks like India being spanked to me.

@Ecobeard. Any close up photos of the rear triangle?

Lovely bike btw

uber gruber has put it more forcefully than me and i concur with him.

The manufacturer provides a range of grades of cladding each at a given price/specification ratio.

But the manufacturer does not decide which grade of cladding is nailed to the building. The decision as to which grade of cladding used is the one that could possibly be negligent.

I say possibly because their are multiple parties involved in a major building project all involved in the decision and any decision on negligence will depend on each parties exact terms of reference.

not entirely sure what you are asking here?

I am pretty sure evans can provide a gear hanger for the Arkose SS - see this thread

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/291304/