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haha, thanks @Skülly - hipsters, step this way.
I was tempted to build up the Dawes rather than the Muddy Fox myself - better steel, but for some reason I got totally hung up on three piece forks with a straight crown. It would look pretty neat painted up though... -
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nuts. sorry. here it is, I hope: http://imgur.com/a/k12ja
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I have three steel MTB frames I need to part with: two Marins and one Dawes. The Marin Bear Valley was until recently my do-anything utility-ish bike, and did a great job. The Pine Mountain I've never built up, as had bought just before I saw the Bear Valley and decided to go with that instead; the same with the Dawes, as I found an old Muddy Fox which suited me better size-wise for my rebuild in the end.
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Marin Bear Valley, 1995ish
TT CTC 21.5"
ST CTT 19"
CW ritchey logic headset and Shimano sealed BB (I think this could do with being replaced as feels pretty grumbly - odd as I installed it only 2 years ago. I don't have a tool with enough purchase to get it out but I wouldn't consider it 'stuck')
Paintwork v good. Little bit of surface rust on chainstay; not noticeable in use.
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Marin Palisades Trail, 1992ish
Tange steel - can't remember what type
TT CTC 21.5"
ST CTT 19"
comes with original ritchey logic headset, QR seat clamp and seat post
Paint mainly good but someone has touched up the rear (zolatone) stays with plastikote or something. It's not bad and definitely good to use as is.
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Dawes Quest, 1988/89ishSOLD
Reynolds 531. This was the top of the line for Dawes at the time, I think. Check out those seem-to-be-unicrown-but-are-actually-three-piece forks!
TT CTC 21 t" / 54cm
ST CTT 19.5" / 49.5cm
C to absolute top 19.75" / 50cm
Paintwork original a bit crappy. There are a few scrapes, some surface rust and someone has touched it up with humbrol or something. Still doesn't look terrible though.
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All prices + post, which I think should be about £12 to mainland UK; payment by Paypal (+ you pay fees) or PP gift (no-one pays fees). I'm in Norwich so can post wherever, or you're welcome to come and take a look, of course.Images are here:
MTB frames
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Thanks @tallsam @sylem - the Mondials roll better than I'd expected. Too early to tell for sure but on the two decent-ish rides I've done so far it felt as though the relative weight penalty over the Panaracer Paselas I used to have was cancelled out by the feeling of stability and comfort. I was fully loaded though so will have to see how it feels day to day. Panaracer are sending me some replacement tyres for the ones that cracked so I always have the option to go back, but I feel like I might like the Mondials - they'd go anywhere, for sure.
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@Skülly hm, you're probably right about the brazeons - at least the fork blade ones. Didn't cross my mind at the time and while I'm not so fussed about the lamp, rack brazeons would've been good. Much neater than P clips. I guess I might swap the rack for one that mounts to the canti bosses at some point if I'm bothered.
- thanks for the cable sleeves tip. Sounds good; will look into it. Really hate cable ties. I did see this v nice build which appeared to partly use what looked like wrapped wire (and a chainstay protector made from copper tubing) but rushed to get the lamp wired up in the end. Opted to wind it around the brake cable along the top tube which I figured looks slightly better than cable ties but would be nice to sort it. cheers!
- thanks for the cable sleeves tip. Sounds good; will look into it. Really hate cable ties. I did see this v nice build which appeared to partly use what looked like wrapped wire (and a chainstay protector made from copper tubing) but rushed to get the lamp wired up in the end. Opted to wind it around the brake cable along the top tube which I figured looks slightly better than cable ties but would be nice to sort it. cheers!
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I meant to post it bit by bit but ended up just doing it. Here are some pics of the final (so far) build. I re-used most bits from my previous build but cleaned them all up. Some were secondhand bits I had lying around but weren't on the other bike. New bits were just mudguards; seat post (different diameter to before);VO cork grips (old ones destroyed in disassembly); BB; cables and outers; brake pads, that kind of thing.
I transferred my old tyres over but realised they were cracked badly (seems to be common with Paselas - those were the second pair I had after sending the first back, and the same has happened again despite being under 2yrs old). Plus, they made it look a bit too precious, I thought. So I went nuts and got some really meaty Marathon Mondials. Not totally sure what I think of them but I took it out for an overnight camp with a friend after work last week, and they rolled surprisingly nicely.
I was going to see about getting a half link for my chain and doing away with the chain tensioner, but so far haven't. I managed to salvage the original headset and pressed it myself. Easy really with a home-made tool via a youtube video but the first time I'd done it, so I was pleased with myself...
Anyway, so far I'm pleased with it. The colour is a bit of a shock - once built up it looks a bit too happy or pastelly or something - but I think that'll pass.
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After converting a Dawes Galaxy to a utility / city / camping bike a few years ago, I gradually realised the geometry was all wrong, so swapped things over to a 90s Marin Bear Valley frame, which got different bars (VO Tourist instead of Nitto Albatross) and eventually an Alfine rear wheel, which I got secondhand. Despite 26" wheels feeling better for what I wanted, I gradually realised (again) that something wasn't right with the reach and no amount of faffing with saddles and stems sorted it, so I looked for something else.
Anyway, I decided I wanted to stay with 26" wheels, partly cos I had the Alfine already, but to look out for an older MTB frame - in particular one with a three-piece fork, as I got a bit obsessed with them on MTBs, but they're pretty hard to find. I was eventually offered a nice but pretty knackered-looking 1986 S&G Muddy Fox Explorer for £30, so I bought that. Its top tube is a little longer, but overall geometry is also much more relaxed. My thinking is that it'll make something similar to, but cheaper and possibly even better built that a Surly LHT.
When I got the frame, I realised that the chainstay bridge was totally shot (the guy who had sold it to me was upfront about this and all other shortcomings - he was really helpful in general); also that the frame only had one set of bottle braze ons. I rang around locally (Norwich) and got a couple of wildly different quotes for the bottle braze ons - one bloke quoted £40 a set, which seemed really expensive and not worth my while; another quoted £10, so I went with him - Angus Taylor of Taylor Made Bikes. He was great.
Anyway, to cut to the chase, after faffing around for most of the weekend fashioning DIY headset crown removal tools out of copper piping and failing miserably to remove the rest of the headset, I took it to my LBS (possibly the best in the world - the reincarnation of much-missed Specialised Cycles in Norwich in the form of Andy Panks' AP Cycles) and he did it for me in minutes.
I spread the rear triangle yesterday from 126 to 135mm using the threaded rod 'n' bolts method, which worked a treat. Now off to the powder coater to get it painted. Think I'm going for RAL 5021 but might change my mind mid-journey. Here's what it looked like in its former life.
Going to build up with similar components to my last build but wondering about (a) trying this thumbshifter in place of the regular Alfine one and (b) possibly mounting my dynamo front light on the side rather than front of the Nitto campee front rack, like this though with the regular bracket for that purpose as I'm not cool enough to be able to fashion one out of an old chainring. Does anyone have any experience of using the Microshift Alfine shifter?
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Thanks @Peter_Carter - looks nice but I think too small for me.
Whoops, sorry... I haven't been getting alerts about new posts for some reason. Just replied to a PM from another person but then saw yours, @Tel, which was posted before, so I'll PM you now to see if you're still interested first.