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Messing about with rat bike today. This one looks quite promising

When I last bought descaler for a Gaggia classic I was directed toward lactic rather than tartaric acid. Not sure where that advice came from, but I ended up with a load of this stuff https://www.descaler.co.uk/eccellente-lactic-descaler-500ml/

Similar fork crown and Prugnat lugs to mine which was built in 1961 and would probably have been branded JRJ

I'm guessing yours is early '60's too, the track ends look quite old fashioned compared to the campag ones on mine so it's either a more traditional customer or an older frame

It rode really well and the paintwork on yours is pretty nice, I used mine as an everyday bike for about 5 years and a load of fun it was too

Belongs here
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/130867/?offset=2100

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Indeed - upgrading a bike that doesn't even exist yet is a slight concern, but worth it in the long run I think, especially if I go to the trouble of colour matching the paint!

Here's a couple belonging to my bro @girodibeniamino

Good thread resurrection and a great era for bikes.
Here are a couple of mine

The devil makes work for idle hands tho - I'm thinking that if I'm going flatmount, 12mm thru with through frame routing on the frame it doesn't really make sense to go with external cable routing, 9mm QR and post mount on the forks ...

I'm just at the sanding and priming stage on these and will flog the Genesis ones and buy the hope front axle adaptors

(Hope pro2 hubs (evo rear) WTB frequency rims, crosswolf tyres, tesa tape, chris king valves shimano rotors, alpine spokes)

The 15week waiting list on this one is a bit of an exercise in delayed gratification.
To make it feel like I’m doing something I built some wheels

Good work. Enjoy the new commuter- ride safe

So I'm just going to call BS on this rosy PC memory of school in the
1980s people here seem to have

Fair enough - cheers for the input all. I think I probably just had nice friends and ignored the c***s

I'm starting to wonder whether it's just selective memory...

It's a good point, and I'm not suggesting for a second that it's on the schools or the kids themselves to deal with this, more just a sad reflection of how far we still have to go.

Contrasting it with my experience at a state comp in the 80s -90s back when the progressive liberal agenda was widely accepted, political correctness was still considered to be a vehicle for social justice and all the teachers were card carrying lefties
You got expelled for saying something racist and ostracised by your peers for holding right wing views.

Assuming that generation of kids are now accepting, enabling or propagating the shite views my kids face I'm wondering whether those attitudes were there all along but not voiced for reasons of self preservation, image management or good manners...

which brings us neatly back to:

think what you like; but don't say it out loud, in case you get caught

better training on how to use social media...

Indeed, I found this a bit baffling, surely the effort should go into coaching young white men not to be racist/sexist twerps.
Having said that, I suspect this may be quite a massive task... My kids attended a majority white suburban secondary and witnessed a culture of white teenage boys identifing as an increasingly marginalised and oppressed minority needing to fight the liberal tide of race and gender values that threatens their birthright as proud english men...

Early on I found this shocking especially when the level of privilege is so great they should be wringing their hands with embarassment rather than whinging about a percieved loss of their god given right to be a sexist/racist twat.
Now it just seems like a depressing normality, especially when public servants like Dowden & Johnson encourage this bizarre behaviour...

This is fabulous - really working har!d to resist...
Out of curiosity are you the guy that bought my 70's Roberts Rat bike?

The guy who bought it had a few others with similar frame numbers iirc
(it was the frame with insanely drilliumed BB shell)

I had some correspondence with a guy called Wei at Pursuitbicycle about doing a custom version of the Tsunami gravel biek https://www.abeyabicycle.com/gravel-frame.html
During the correspondence he used email addresses from Seaboard, Abeya, and Pursuit.
Price on a custom geo bare 4130 frame was $360 + shipping there were quite a few limitations/design rules so I ended up going with Marino instead.
Communications were good and he seemed like a decent guy
I think Abeya China Trading Company is the umbrella company for all these brand names.
https://www.pursuitbicycle.com/Steel-Gravel-Bicycle-Frame-ABYFC003

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382204204987?
Square taper Raleigh BBs are a thing.
more options here: https://firecloudcycles.co.uk/all-parts/bottom-brackets/

#summertime things are looking up

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@user127168 Nope the total length is 150mm and it’ll protrude by about 100mm above lock nut

Any interest at £15 posted before I stick it on ebay?

Turns out it is a repost https://www.lfgss.com/comments/13270624/

• owner @bankiren posted it 5 years back but stuck in my head as the best Cervelo I've ever seen
  

Older carbon usually works better than new - less like a pro / dentist

The passage of time and and some HHSB sensibilities can work wonders: