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How did they bind the edges? I've got to buy a lot of carpet in the next week or so and if I can use some of the offcuts for the two runners I need them that might save me a few bob.

They sound like a couple of complete Herberts. I'd be tempted to leave the offer open for 5 more days then move on. Unless it really is your dream house, in which case pay them the extra 20k or whatever it is they want.

I expect if they aren't talking Turkey with tbc then they are either having discussions with another party or they haven't got another offer on the table but tbcs isn't in the ballpark where they can have meaningful discussions.

If the owners are a couple of old(er) people in my experience that also makes things complicated as they generally don't have the same sense of urgency to get things agreed.

The bottom line is when you are buying and selling an asset that someone has, that you want, whilst you can try and negotiate over various aspects of the deal, you can jump up and down and shout and swear at everyone involved in the process, but the bottom line is and always had been this.

you need to be prepared to walk away.

If you are not prepared to walk away from the deal, then you are ultimately negotiating with an empty hand. And most sellers know it.

I think she got some pretty good advice on the whole actually. No idea if she took note of it or what's happened afterwards.

Extra seems to have deleted all her stuff off this thread. Perhaps she commissioned one too many extra surveys and it's all gone up the pictures?

It's not really a surprise ping can make money tho is it.

70k with someone legit or 27,500 with ping.

For many people they can only choose the latter. If they just essentially want a shed on the roof (which is all a basic dormer is) then they might get away with using the P man.

He might also run off with their money, but you pay your money and take your choices in this world.

Who did the peeps opposite use? Tbh bespoke are basically everywhere in leytonstone and Walthamstow. I'm a bit out of touch with what lofts cost now but if they are nudging 70 grand they've basically doubled from what they cost 5/6 years ago (my L shaped one was about 35/36k ish in 2017).

I don't see how it's sustainable really.

I'm not sure about the labour element for a loft conversion but I do know the totality of the materials cost me between 8-10k for mine because the loft company recommended I buy them all and stack them up in my garden because they were going up at ten pc a month at that point. I ended up paying about 40k for mine recently excluding professional fees.

Theyll also probably dump a load of rubbish and commercial waste in the carpark and it'll cost you thousands to clear up.

Best thing you can do with the hose is turn it on them to be honest

(ETA don't do that because you'll probably end up dead)

I've just done a loft and 6m X 4m kitchen diner with knock through for 100k.

I had to reduce the sale price of my house I was selling by 3k to keep the chain intact. I was absolutely furious about it tho and the figures involved were not small. So I sucked it up but I wouldn't have reduced my house by anymore than that.

It difficult for me to also say this without sounding like a complete dick head, but, the house extra is buying is at the cheaper end of the scale. It's not a brand new show home with a warranty.

I can understand if you were spending 800/900k and the survey said it immediately needed a new roof at a cost of 75k. That would be a material consideration as to whether the purchase price was reasonable or not.

If it's a cheaper house then it's completely reasonable for the incoming purchaser to be alive to the fact that old houses, particularly cheaper ones, need maintenance. They need in some respects, constant maintenance. You cannot expect a seller to significantly subsidize the obligation that all house owners have in one way or another which is the obligation to maintain the house during their period of ownership. That includes fixing the roof when it eventually leaks (which might not be for a few years).

I speak from bitter experience given one of the reasons my cunt of a buyer wanted ten grand off was because "all the gutters need renewing". Those were the gutters that were just 8.5 years old and fully replaced in 2013 were they pal?

Whilst you are right, a lot of people do not act rationally or as you would otherwise expect when it comes to property matters.

When my buyer tried to chip me ten grand for a whole host of spurious reasons 4 months into the sales process I was an inch away from telling him to go and fuck himself. It ended up costing me 3 grand in the end by way of a reduction to keep it all intact.

Cheerz

Who did you use for the carpet ? I'm about to get quotes and would rather avoid the bad ones if poss.

That's just taking the piss.

I jacked the roof up on my old house but it didn't stick out like a sore thumb like that. There are certain subtle ways of doing it, so it blends in a bit better to the streetscape than this. Involves ridge tiles, rendering the fire walls, that sort of thing.

If the roof doesn't leak you don't need a new roof. I'd tread fairly carefully about trying to use that as a point of pressure to renegotiate. My house has a roof from 1982 and it doesn't leak. The surveyor said strictly speaking it's old and would need to be renewed in due course, on the phone he said it's got at least another 20 years left in it if not more.

I viewed the house I purchased a year ago for the grand total of 10 minutes, on one occasion, before buying it six months later. I walked past it just before we exchanged contracts and as it was still standing there I decided to go ahead.

Hotter summers sound very nice to me. Very nice indeed.

I think part of the problem is you are moving from what is objectively an extremely attractive period property into potentially a house that onslow, on keeping up appearances, would live in.

I personally think you've made your mind up by posing the question but I quite understand your willingness to see if others have been able to compromise on things like this.

I mean that really is what it boils down to. It does look like ex LA housing. I think the fact you've raised it as a point of contention might mean it would play on your mind? Who knows. House buying and selling is bloody stressful so don't make any rush or knee jerk decisions. If you don't go for this one something else will likely come up for sale that you could make a good fist of.

Depends how much it is really. I assume it's not a cheap house given where you are looking? Personally I couldn't do it because from an architectural standpoint it's not a looker, but I'm a raging snob.

You raise a fair point. I live here, know it's there and won't disturb it

I intend to be carried out of this house in a long wooden box. If my plans change and I sold the house before that happened then I'd make it clear during the sales process that one ceiling historically contained an artex coating and shouldn't be disturbed. That would be the right thing to do.

I didn't actually, my builder of many years experience went into the bedroom and said that's got asbestos in it so we will just need to overborded and then skim it.

I expect the free building surveyor will do you no favours and you'll be "needing" a new roof