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Yeah I was thinking this. It’s a difficult balance isn’t it. Obviously footy players seem incapable of bubbling properly but my god it’s a distraction for most of us. I don’t even care about kickball but I’d rather people who do have somewhere to put their anxieties.

It’s not about free speech. It’s about being angry because there are a couple of things left which they’re not allowed to say and do, and they’re livid. It’s about the freedom to exercise those last remaining things (bristling with guns and antisocial rhetoric regardless of the broader effects on the established community).

From where I’m sitting it’s about being free to act with fury... psychopathy. Being free to fuck everyone else’s freedom. Winning. And it’s the winners who whine the most about their freedoms.

Society at large disagrees but they don’t care. So needing a password to exercise their version of freedom is not only unsurprising it confirms their victim status.

We’ll they’re both doing alright for themselves but operate on the basic presumption that there are some bits of privilege as yet unavailable to them and their friends so they’re prepared to act like proper dumbasses in order to grab what they can despite the fact they’ve been winning all along... so yeah - in a manner of speaking he is.

Five kids. No wonder he spends so long on 8Chan.

^^ And @edscoble - if you 'Parklife' me for this I swear to God I'll steal your lectern.

Agreed... but... it does depend on majority. So one easy way to combat it is to establish a society in which the majority of both sides of the political divide can at least have trust or basic belief. Then myth builders and dragon slayers are marginalised in general dialogue and the danger remains fringe. It's still a danger but it's not a civil war. The real threat is when ideologies become amplified by the perception of security being utterly undermined right?

I think we're reaping what we sowed by establishing a very fragile veil over these insecurities in an unjust and unfair capitalist society? But the best solution to what is currently still a fairly manic (but growing) unease is to give stability back.

It all just shows what a house of cards it all is and why states like Russia find it so easy to sow discord with basic interference doesn't it.

You didn’t. Not riding about on your bike. Get some air. It’s good for you.

oh god I miss rep

Nice one!

I set that little Strava target of doing a 10k in January... Currently I'm hovering at a steady )slow) 6.5k and am very nervous about putting more distance in lest my hip / knee injuries flare. I think it's a massive achievement to have had injury but to be patient enough to get back to 10k like that. Well played.

Even if only half a dozen of these loons were organised enough, it’s terrifying how close this came to globally altering things. Obviously they were allowed to wander in (effectively), but they were two corridors from potentially murdering the government. I mean... it’s guy fawkes stuff.

My opinion is that he should be fucked regardless of his intent or ownership of the ties. They should be a footnote in his prosecution

It is nice. Although I think the hero worship they are getting from the people with whom they identify is sufficient reward for them regardless of prison?

He was wearing combat gear and a sidearm on the floor of the capital chamber, having broken in, while senators and congress hid in neighbouring buildings. Who gives a fuck whether he found his plastic handcuffs or brought them? Throw the fucking book at him. Once again the fog of web chatter clouds the essential conversation.

Frighteningly I think it’s way more banal than that. He’s an evolution of Giles or Thelwell

I kind of agree with this. Trump is essentially king Troll. Anything beyond an emabarrassed retreat would be weaponised. That’s how trolls and their followers operate. Out with a whimper to a purgatory of penalisation I’d what I wish upon him and his cabal.

Ooh that is tasty!

They should 100% limit it to dignitaries for Covid reasons.

Please stop sharing Ben O G . He’s crap. Whatever his politics he’s one of the worst satirical illustrators ever and he’s a mouthpiece for fuckwittery who thrives of indignation. Just ignore.

Why now!!!! ? It’s infuriating!

Semantics until it isn't right? If there is evidence of terrorist activity by a particular group specifically then..... If no actual acts of terrorism or preparation for terrorism can be associated with a specific group then....

Help me out here kids... His mouth is out of synch and it's a dub right? If that's implicit to the convo I'm sorry for being a web luddite. It's clearly the hype party before big don takes the stage right?

And yes... Coke.

All these fucking heroes resigning from Trumps inner circle with thirteen days left on his calendar can absolutely fuck right off.

He 100% wanted more chaos and martyrs than he got I reckon.

Yes mate!

How long have you got? Clapping is a very empty gesture at this stage.