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this thread makes me feel so uncultured...

no way, setting stuff up and making things easier than optics calculations! - switch off light, face window. lock shutter open if you can, prop up lens. maybe make a quick frame to turn trace into a screen. move tracing paper away from it until distance stuff in focus, check focus with lupe on back of trace. measure distance. repeat with objects closer up as required, shine a desk lamp at them.

anyway, there aren't any sums, if it's a "true" 105mm, I would have thought the distance will be from the middle of the (thickness of the) lens, but the calibration is just to check that. I think.

^^ I'm sure others on here have more expertise than me, but first thoughts:

Pinhole exposures - easiest to calculate the equivalent of Sunny16 and then just guess either side, as the times are long anyway. however this won't be consistent enough for slide film. If you want to use a light meter, the cheap old-fashioned sort that have a dial and needle are quite good as you can just mark additional increments on them up to your required f-stop. Or if you have a digital light meter already that you want to use, write down the calculation you need to do on a label and stick it on as a reminder (eg. the exposure for f16 x 8 will get you to f128-ish).

Focal length - can you not set it up to focus on a sheet of tracing paper (use a lupe/magnifying glass too), then you know how far to put it from the film?

rape jokes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

wiki says "the quantitative analysis of actual economic phenomena based on the concurrent development of theory and observation, related by appropriate methods of inference."

well, that clears that up then.

um, no. it makes you about 5' 7.5"

what's econometrics?

^^ I'm trying to get rid of stuff!

big cupboard (an old G-plan) but it has lots of other unnecessary belongings in it too. good incentive to start cracking open boxes of books and journals...

I have another four shelves or so I could get rid of but I'm not sure I have the energy to list them. Or carry them all to the pub.

I'm very tempted to use one of these to catalogue all my stuff (seen on Any Questions earlier today) but I think it would just be a massive hole of procrastination...

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I have a cupboard full of The Architects' Journal dating back to 1998 or something I need to go through. Anyone want some? I don't want them back so you can destroy at will. Will have a look for more bookish stuff too.

really? hmm. considering what books to turf

actually, I need to get rid of stuff, not acquire it... :/
no books for me. sorry, undibs.
(still wanna take a look at that saddlebag though)

aye, whenever. will work something out.

then except with square brackets. oh you got it already.

dibs Vonnegut and Lunar Park? Wests tomorrow?

on Sky: father of one of the men run over and killed in birmingham last night. did CPR on his own son. heartbreaking.

Sweaty Betty too much of a brand, imo. like a fashion brand with a particular look and style. too exclusive (not necessarily in financial terms, I don't know what their stuff costs, but it is hardly 'friendly' branding... )

was going to reply to TheorySwine about 5 pages back, but whatok ^^^^^ also reminded me: there has to be a balance, I mean some kids especially do need to have a healthy fear of consequences, but as has been said many times over the last few days the society we live in basically agrees to live together, there isn't a state or police force in place to make sure we all behave, and nor would we want that. because the idea that people will default to arson and theft unless forced into conformity by the state/police is a sad one. like building a place that is impossible to vandalise or abuse, it is dehumanising to all.

StuF and HatBeard: great links, I'd never even considered that sort of thing existed!

The Royal Oak? good beer, occasionally get set upon by squiffy regulars though.

Thanks DC, as I thought. Didn't know its vintage so that's nice to know.

^ In the news might be the better thread for that if it's strong info. oh it is.

it's also obvious that on this thread we all have different political opinions regarding this and many other things. I've enjoyed reading them and participating. Let's refrain from calling each other cunts etc because it also seems we are in agreement that this is wrong and we are in effect a community willing to offer each other places to stay in safety if this all goes pear shaped.

+1 one of the best things about the forum. diff strokes and folks. keep the spirit strong.

But that's what I'm seeing in Lower Clapton. People are saying stuff like " they'll have to kill me 1st"...

oh, that wasn't her then, she was all faux sympathy and sorriness after being on earlier calling them "feral rats". i don't think she mentioned vigilanteism, but i only saw the second half.

Who's this silly twat on the BBC at the moment? Fuuuuuck.

the woman shopkeeper from ealing? not good.

Nigel Farage (spit) on Sky "this is wrong and must stop and stop now" he wants the army in now now now. but not plastic bullets.