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Dan Martin lost time in the Vuelta for taking a wee in the wrong place.

Hmmm, not sure about this bending the rules business. Porte's been a legend. Would be a shame if he got penalised for it.

Nonsense. This is the second time they've pulled this shit.

15 seconds is hardly cracking

What the actual fuck?

Needed a magic feedbag?

Aw hungry

Froome not even remotely struggling.

Part of the problem is undoubtedly that Froome doesn't have any credible Grand Tour rivals besides Wiggins.

Well, to be fair Nibali has bested the two of them three times this season .

A couple of things...
Conclusion - to some extent anyone who says Froome is an average rider who started doping are saying that the one team who really set themselves up as anti-doping are now just about the only cheats in the business. Seems unlikely.

Nobody thinks that. Also has nobody considered the fact that a person can dope without the backing/knowledge of their DS? Sky do themselves no favours though, set themselves up as a transparent anti-drug team who will only hire non-cycling doctors from the UK then basically do the opposite.

I know what you mean but unless we have wind reports for every ascent for the last 20 odd years time is the only thing we can go on for now.

Edit: For the record I think wind must have played a factor since there's a reasonable chance Quintana could have stayed with Froome had he not burned himself out with a solo effort. In which case we'd be looking a two 'record holders' so to speak

Thanks. So same as Lance in 2002 but nowhere near Pantani in 94. I know Mayo's time was for a 37k TT was Pantani's something similar or just the result of massive talent combined with massive amounts of EPO?

Can't find a definite answer anywhere. Was that last 15k the fastest on record? Heard people mention it was faster than lance in 2002 and others saying it was near to Pantani levels. Others saying it was nowhere near. Anybody know 100%

Somehow I can't quite see sky miming pop video's on youtube or convincing Eddy Merckx to partake in a AC/DC parody.

Who ever owns the boat that came off is a brakeless twat.

Ps - BQ: Kittel was the most successful neo pro of all time. His star has been rising for a while. He also has the best hair in the peloton

He's also by far the biggest rider in the peloton. (Magnus Backstedt is retired right)

Bet Cav is very complimentary in the interview. He's usually gracious enough when everything's fair and square

He came from very far back to take the lead man. The 'Cav' special. Have to say I really like Kittel, he looks f**kin mental on the bike.

Well, know we know

They repaved entire sections of our mountain roadways when the tour started in Ireland, surely the have the foresight to remove those yokes.

Have to be gone.

Because he was going for the fucking win you moron<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Armchair experts

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Imagine how popular the Tour would be if it didn't involve superhuman performances?

It'd have about the same attraction as bike polo.

I'm not implying 'doped' performances when I say superhuman ones. I just mean awesome ones.

... because he was livid about being blocked out of the comp by a lead out guy who had looked back and then positioned himself accordingly. Right or wrong he was biting his tongue I'd imagine.

Yeah but he clearly could have avoided him but decided not too.

Frankly this thread has sucked hairy balls for about two days. Doping gossip can do one. It was a blessed relief yesterday when disgruntled Frenchies started lobbing bodily fluids about.

Unfortunately, it's the same on every single cycling website in the English speaking world. Non-believers arguing with believers. If more people used the internet regularly in 1999 it would have been the exact same. Superhuman performance in the wake of a massive drugs scandal. It's all part of the cycle.

I'd say 'Froome Dog' is probably the worst nickname for a sportsperson/celebrity I've ever heard.