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Just watched the last 6km of stage 7 in the tour of Turkey and was wondering if Cav spoke about what happened in the final run in.

To me it looked like Steegmans went full gas after the final corner and Renshaw(?) couldn't keep up and dropped out of the line leaving Cav to bridge up to Petacchi. When Steegmans eventually peeled off Cav looked like he slapped out at him in frustration, or maybe Steegmans was coming into Cav's line? Didn't look like a happy bunny.

The video quality was pretty poor quality and I know nothing about sprinting so maybe I'm mis-interpreting the pixels...

The video is this one and the action starts at about 4:50. On reflection though, I think it mightn't be Cavendish that I'm looking at, and maybe it's Mr Bonet from Caja Rural? Serves me right for trying to catch up using steep hill links...

From what I could see it looks like Cav is moving Steegmans, or just putting his hand out to let him know he is there. You often see the Quick Step guys pull off and then drift back into the line, creating another obstacle for chasers.

I'm not sure what Renshaw is doing there, it could be that he's is trying to bully the rider who is trying to hop onto the Quick Step lead out (you see him take another rider with him across) —*and assumes Cav can close that gap easily. Unfortunately Steegmans really hits the gas at that point and Cav has burn a match to get onto the wheel, which is 3 bike lengths by then, instead of the original 1.

Exciting finish but I shuddered watching that crash at the end.

Certainly looked like Cav, but I think it was more 'keep out of my line' than anything else, especially seeing the chaos Steegmans caused behind Cav as he weaved all over the road.

Edit: ^ What he said

^^^ yeah that's just a 'I'm here' hand on shoulder.

Cav had to push a bit to close that gap though! Steegmans is a machine.

I know this was ages ago, but to clear it up - Cav was 3rd wheel when the gap goes - behind him. He's then 2nd wheel after Steegmans pulls off. This is pretty obvious simply from the number of riders in line. I think the guy who taps Steegmans on the back must be from Caja Rural.

Sorry for the topic dredge!

Low blood sugar; I feel fine now.

Anyone else getting that "I really, really, really, really don't want to do this" feeling?

No?

Having now done Dunwich and feeling quite pleased with myself on hitting (nearly) 200k without feeling too mashed, my thoughts are turning to 200k audaxes and the speeds required.

So I'm down for the Chris Negus Memorial 200k in September which says it's 216km and with a speed of 15-30kph. Using my magic maths that's a maximum time limit of 216/15 = 14.4h for the whole thing.

If it starts at 8am (which it does) does that mean that your man's going to hold the final control open until 10:24pm?

I know this sounds blindingly obvious but it's not actually mentioned anywhere on the AUK site as far as I can tell.

You can probably walk it in that time

There was a guy in Manchester called Yoav, played polo I think. NM

p.s. Garmin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

for anyone interested, I'll be riding the prologue, and starting at 8.

Me too! :D

I'll hopefully share some load with some quite strong guys I've met this year who are starting at the same time

Crikey :S

last minute crises of confidence

GP 4seasons in 28mm or 4000s in 25?

Smallest tyres possible.

Hopefully see some of you in a few days. I'm helping to man the checkpoint in Brampton (Cumbria), 'cos I live there.

Are you Manchester's Yoav? Either way, see you at Brampton :D

^^ You're doing this thread wrong

There's nothing wrong with 50/16 on the road, if you know what you're getting yourself in for.

but the cut off for entries is this Friday.

Ahh crap. Turns out the cut off for entries was this Thursday :((((((((

replaced the Spok

thread broken :(

there is a 600

Oof. I am doing LEL, but that just looks so far!! It's the kind of ride I really should be doing, though, so consider me tentatively in.

I've read things like this about a million times, the thing I want to know is, has anyone ever been on one of these mythical group rides? Or are we not lucky enough to have been initiated in to them from birth?

A bit grubby but they spin fine..

I have some bog-standard MKS (campag rip-off) pedals, I also have a pair of size M toeclips but only two of the four bolts to attach them to the pedals...

I generally only permit riding in km's for rides of longer than 100 miles, given that 60 miles is just 'a bike ride' rather than 'a long bike ride'.

My friends said they prefer riding in kilometres cos they go by quicker, but then there are more of them! My pastime on audaxes is seeing if I can 'get a feel' for how far 3.7km/6.1km/whatever to the next turning is (as in be able to 'know' when I'm going to get to it), haven't got the hang of it yet. Anything over about 1.5 just turns into "quite a long way" :

You guys are some serious hard-asses. Did my first longer fixed ride the other day, 95 km solo on undulating terrain -- loved it, but was knackered afterwards. Wanting to extend my reach now!

'Riding in kilometres', are we? ;)

Yeah I know :/ Things are pretty tight, for unnecessary expenditure at least.

I'm a bit tempted by the rims.. Haven't got any money tho.. :/

^^ WTF do you want from a jersey?

what technical do you expect from a jersey?

Exactly.

^^well I think I answered your question, and if you think you answered mine that would make it a tie.

I think you answered yours!

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miro_o is 1000archangels and I claim my each-way £10 amIdoingitright??

The thig I hate most on group rides is not knowing where we're going/that the person I'm following knows where we're going. This seems like the worst idea for that.

Yeah that's fair enough.

If you're in a public place there's certainly nothing a private security guard can do to stop you doing anything; furthermore legally speaking the only way a police officer could ask you not to take a photo is under anti-terrorism powers, nothing to do with it being a prison. Basically if you're stood on public ground you can take a photograph in any direction you care to, regardless of what happens to be in the image.

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What differences would there be in etiquette/guidelines between social rides and faster runs where drafting is needed?

Sit in on the flat; drop everybody on the hills.