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What can I say, I quite like it.

It's about 3.5kg to carry on a 13kg bike. Of course, you can swap the M18 for a lighter long shank, say the Evo Series 4, or a Kryptolok Series 2. Both fine on my insurance policy. If it gets stolen, I get a brand new bike. Not much to complain about.

Solution found:

PLUS

New York Lock® M-18NX plus KryptoLok® series 2 Mini. Just fits. Works a treat.

Pashley do some nice leather grips. Matches the colour of a honey Brooks saddle quite closely, and nicer, cleaner finish than the Brooks grips ... pricey (RRP £50), though currently going at discountcyclesdirect.co.uk for £39.99

They use them on the Guvnor.

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At a push, you could try Pashley's leather frame protector. At £25, it makes a nice handle too.

A picture of it on the Guvnor:

a) for reals?!! dude...
b) duh, chain lock
c) slack chain
d) nice water bottle!

a) for real
b) no chains, they're no good (or if they are, too heavy).
c) not my bike.
d) L'Eroica

If your main concern is weight, isn't this i pretty heavy?
I worked in a bike shop for a bit and built a couple of Pashley's, from what i remember they weighed a ton?

13kg for the Guvnor. I get my exercise.

The LCC tries: "Beat the Thief" campaign 2010.

I don't hold out much hope, but nice to see locks scrape an honourable mention at the bottom of the list. Let's hope the other 7 steps get some attention.

Ha, did my dashing of platitude bug you, Morgan?

For what it's worth, I was being sincere, and without a dash of belief in patronizing superiority.

Not at all horatio, your comment was taken sincerely, and with genuine thanks.

I fear my "for what it's worth" misfired. I intended it to refer back to my original comment, hoping to suggest to those pillorying the following of fashion that I didn't set a great deal of store in the current fancies of art directors either, appearances to the contrary (the shared eye for a classic, or the reach of Pashley's product placement department, is another matter). Sorry, should have made that clearer.

"for what it's worth"

Thanks horatio, I do, I will.

Of course.
I have 1x fagh mini, 1x NY3000 and 1x M&S insurance policy.

I take it the fagh mini is for your front wheel?

For what it's worth, the bike is getting a lot of love from art directors and fashion photographers right now.

But maybe I'm kidding myself. Maybe I want one of these instead.

something of the logic of an arms race to this whole business.

does no one rely on insurance?

Chains? The only decent chains (16mm link +) weigh over 6kg. The bike's not light as it is, no major problem there, but I'm not stoked about carrying that much on my body, back's a bit peaky as it is.

That, and none of the 16mm+ chains are insurance compliant. I've already paid for a year.

It's the long U-Lock then. Or, as I hinted at above, buy the lightest insured lock, sit back, and wait for the inevitable.

And no sale, I like the Guvnor.

in all honestly, I somewhat doubt thieves realise that they can take off the rear stay by a few turn of an allen keys.

They do now. Not even allen keys, a pair of pliers would do it. I'm making this worse aren't I?

Having both a GRP lock and tape measure to hand I can tell you that the internal dimensions are 11.5cm wide, 26cm long (21.5 to start of curve).

Thanks Savvy, I'll go measure up.

Can we get these guys? Angel needs them.

Can't find my tape measure at the moment. I'll report back tomorrow.

Thanks GA2G, but no rush, I can't pop over to Peckham for a few weeks.

...or when your rear triangle comes apart, rendering the sheldon method wank. undo seat stays, pop out rear wheel, take off with frame and front wheel.

why are the seat stays removable?!

Indeed, that was my point. Something about "tradition". No Sheldon method for me, even in the quieter provinces.

Ah yes, I left that caveat implicit; "in any case" should read "in my case" .. I'll be locking up in just those areas.

Perhaps I shouldn't fret so much, secure my wheels at least, and rely on insurance for the rest. New for old and no deductions for wear and tear, after a few years I'd almost thank the tea leaf.

... Oh, and might you have the dimensions of the GRP to hand?

Ah, I'd taken the "narrow shackle" security advice to heart.

I'll go try on the wider, longer ones. My usual problem comes up though, I'll need to comply with insurance .. already paid for a year. Limits my choice of second lock (or whichever goes round the object).

I know you don't recommend the Sheldon method in any case, so really my question about the rear triangle was a red herring. Thanks for putting me on the strait and narrow (or wide, as the case may be).

And the immovable object? That's the three lock problem I was talking about.

I have the Fahg mini for rear-to-frame, and the KryptoLok Series 2 mini will fit the front, keep the weight down. Already at 3kg. Surely the beefiest lock should go to the object? That takes me to 5kg. Is that fine?

I did say "small" challenge.

Lobotomy perhaps?

I'm not sure! The answer must be so obvious, but I can't think strait.

Secure the bolts? Pitlocks?

A locking challenge for you: "How to lock a Pashley Guvnor? ..."

Am I missing something obvious?