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Yep, Hamilton has a habit of acting like a bit of a dick-wad out of the car but Vettel seems to save his bad behaviour for key moments in races. This is why for all his wet eyed antics when things haven't gone his way i'm still a fan of Hamilton as he still has the ability to amaze on the track. Vettel seems like a nice bloke but his moments of shear brilliance feel few and far between.

@PhilDAS - been looking for much the same thing, i've heard a lot of good things about the All City range in terms of feeling lively, Macho King 853?

EDIT: Maybe not an MK, a little lacking in mounts

Ah thanks, looks awesome!

Stunning. What's the max tyre size on this? Another potential buyer for the frameset if you split.

GLWS

Hey, interested in the fork, let me know how much you want for it when you have a minute.

Top tube length and reach almost identical to my CAAD, fairly normal no? In fact the stack and reach on this is perfect for me but the high b.b means the standover is too much for me. GLWS Tom, wish I was a little bit taller...

Unlikely seconds on the turbo please

3T stem and RHM bars sold.

Bikes like this make me wan't to keep my CAAD even though i'm not riding it - tis awesome.

I have, the problem is the cost of specialist insurance. I seem to recall when i looked into it the cost of insuring the Argos, CAAD, Iroko and my girlfriends Condor was something like £250 a year.

I currently have the Argos, CAAD and Iroko valued at 1k and the Condor at 2k all on my home insurance. Cost me about £80 on top of my reg insurance. Assuming the above figure is correct that's too much extra to justify.

I've never had any issues with JL insurance (got burgled, they were good), but i know in reality the custom Argos and CAAD would cause real headache's to resolve in the case of a quote when using non specialist bike insurance. So instead of paying a lot more for specialist insurance i think i'd prefer to switch my stable to much more replaceable/cheaper to insure bikes.

@LeePaton Arkose is on the list but not for my daily, it would be the bike i'd buy if i wanted to go touring again, and then i'd sell it when i got back!

@bobble @ltc , cheers, both good suggestions.

I think the biggest issue i'm having right now is i just don't know what i want from my bikes. I went touring over the summer which was great but i told myself if i ever did that again i definitely wouldn't be doing it with the CAAD. I'm also doing zero road riding atm and i can't see that changing for a good while. I don't race, belong to a club or like being near shit drivers on my weekends. It sitting there not getting used is stressing me out so i'm actually considering selling it.

The MTB is a stress free no brainer, it hardly gets used but i love every chance i get to go riding with friends so i'm happy to make space for it.

Unfortunately commuting is where i spend most my time on the bike so i want to enjoy it as much as possible. I've been thinking about an OTP steel track frame with clearance for bigger tyres and rear drilling if i want to go SS. My girlfriend and I have started going camping lately and we both like the idea of having something for easy road/path riding so the latter could work nicely for that. Problem is i don't want a tank for that odd occasion i need some 32's so Surly and co are not that appealing.

That would allow me to keep the Argos as either a Sunday best bike or rattle can shitter but that would render me gear-less. Right now though that doesn't seem like a bad idea, I dunno...

Thanks @jogger.

Cadence bartape now sold.

But then i would have four bikes...

If i had to leave a bike everyday at the station or something like that then i would definitely have a beater but most the time i don't know ahead of time if i have meetings. The Argos really doesn't owe me much so i'm trying to be more chill and worry less. I'm gonna secure finishing kit with hexlox as i know people will nick anything and i have Abus granit gold's at home and at work so i don't always need to lug a monster lock around. I suspect i'll end up getting a new frame at some point that is less bright and easier to insure but then it'll be more tempting to tea leaves!

Bike one is my Argos commuter. In most cases it gets me from A to B pretty well but issues include a max tyre size of 25c, unable to fit a front guard with current fork (can fit one with my Time carbon) and it's not the most relaxed for weekend chill rides. Biggest problem for me though is not being able to lock it up. I now have regular work meetings in central and me and my girlfriend would like to be out and about on the weekend but i'm just really not cool with leaving it out. I recently put all my bikes on my home insurance which covers out of house use but the Argos is essentially unclaimable as it's a custom frame and a bunch of random parts.

So as the frame is now looking a little tired i've decided to remove much of the shiny stuff, de-logo what i can in a bid to get more comfortable leaving it outside. I've also built a more relaxed cockpit for weekend riding (brake lever in post). Parts used were mostly free or too scruffy to sell, i've been speaking with Condor regarding ordering a hexlox kit and i'm considering switching the CK for an old black steel A9 i have in the spares box. Not a fan of quill adaptors but i'm happy with how this looks for now, pretty surprising just how much stiffer it is with oversize bars.

Trying really hard to have 3 bikes that do everything I need/want them to. My current three have all been great and exceed expectations in many areas but I still get frustrated that I can’t just go for a ride without knowing what the conditions are going to be like or that locking my bike up reduces me to a panic attack.

The plan is to see what can be done to improve the durability of each bike or potentially to look at frame swaps that would increase usability.

To raise funds and to reduce clutter and the risk of starting new projects I’ve been having a fair clear out of spares. In an ideal world I’d like nothing more than 3 bikes, decent locks, tools, a few service items and any items that help me ride more (BP gear, travel case, roof rack carrier).

In a nutshell i want fun, hassle free, durable, slightly original whilst also insurable/replaceable bikes. Simples...

Also on the look out for a 52 in case anyone's thinking of selling one.

Lots sold, some stuff on hold, a few nice bits left.

No idea on RAL but it looks quite similar to a Fiat coupe 2.0 blue which is pretty high chroma if you want something that "pops"

Couple items sold, couple things on hold, updated to forum donations for the cogs

No worries, let me know which ones and i'll put them on hold for you.

Apparently script related

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/aug/22/danny-boyle-james-bond-daniel-craig

Still for sale, @TheShipwright has stood down for now, i'll try and get a pic up later

Sorry to be spammy, retro IRC tyres, funky turbo and a free Azonic downhill stem in need of some love here if anyone's looking for some old school bits

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/324698/#comment14382441

Would look nice but decals over powder coat not the easiest.

No real value in a resto job and any increase would be completely lost in the cost of the work. I was suggesting it incase you considered keeping it. There's always a ceiling on the value of a bike like this no matter what you spend on it, especially when you deviate from original.

Best option returns wise would be to split it, live and learn and all that jazz.