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What was so shit about them?

I dunno if you guys like more modern stuff but I've been loving the new Isaiah Rashad record, Cilvia Demo. Rashad is part of TDE (Kendrick, Schoolboy Q etc) and you can definitely hear that in his sound but he's also a southerner who references Outkast and Scarface fairly liberally. It's a bit druggy, a bit spacey, a bit jazzy but he's a sharp lyricist with a penchant for introspection which keeps the record on an even keel. Would recommend.

http://open.spotify.com/track/6zSwnPvoqQ2bzvYMlt3u4u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vUaqIoXGVV4

Wu-tang serious? They all had super hero nicknames and sampled terrible Kung-fu movies.

Ironically, I always considered ODB to be the most 'serious' member of Wu. Rae and Ghost had the grimiest stories but ODB lived it. He pretty much spent his whole life getting shot, high, busted, rehabbed, sued... the list goes on. Then after he died it turned out the FBI was building a RICO against him for gun-running.

Crazy dude. I would quite like to see that documentary about him that came out recently.

Hard to fault that Pelizzoli. Simple and tasteful but still an definite head-turner. I would.

The parts on this frame are stressing me out a little bit

They'd go really nicely with a Juicy Couture tracksuit IMO

West end final:

THE FOFFA REBUTTAL: BUSTY SAMANTHA HAS NO IDEA ABOUT DANI'S OVERHEADS OR TENUOUS H + SON AFFILIATION, IS UNQUALIFIED TO CRITICISE WHEELS

Very nice indeed. Everything I've seen from Talbot has been great so far.

I'm not Danni foffa and my investment in this whole thing is not the same as a man trying to defend his business and livelihood.

Incredible.

Actually, you know what, the fact that Danni has not gone down the road of fake profiles bigging up foffa in the years this thread has been running is something of testament to his character. I'm sure it has occurred to him.

I can't even... this is next level.

The level of vitriol expressed by some people (not all) has however gradually sided me with foffa.

Me too. Sold.

This might be my favourite thing that's ever happened on here.

I know you're new to the forum but there's some great content in the other parts of the site - feel free to explore. Don't just spend all your time watching this thread.

You're right Toby, there's absolutely nothing suspicious about you signing up yesterday, posting two generic comments and then wading into the Foffa thread with a detailed glowing appraisal of their bikes.

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I want it.

Trance is a terrible film...

Probably the worst film I've ever paid money to see.

Skills

Stevie Wonder I think.

And Tibbly, I am not asking the approval from this community (which many people would doubt it can even be called one)

Let me tell you something right now - if this community didn't exist you wouldn't have sold so much as a fucking valve cap in your life. Every single thing you do is beholden to a culture that exists because of forums like this one. A culture that you have nothing to do with. So go and have a little think about that while you're making some more red wheels.

Dani, you need to stop seeking approval from this community because you ain't gonna get it. And here's why: You contribute fuck all to cycling and yet you expect to make a profit from it. And people find that unpalatable.

And when you don't contribute, when you don't do anything new, your products have very limited appeal, so you can only make money by selling them to people who don't know any better. This is also unpalatable.

You're not the only one who does this. In fact, every company does this to some extent, but this is literally the only thing you do. This is your entire business model. And it's shit. Really shit. Well done on selling those two 3k bikes by the way, that's two people who could be riding BMCs that are now riding Foff-pipe. You must be very proud.

You seem completely confounded that you come off unfavourably when compared to someone like H Plus Son, but H Plus Son actually contributes something. They sponsor riders, their designs are innovative and their quality is exceptional. They didn't reinvent the wheel, but they stepped up with a strong product when there were few decent alternatives. And now they're a respected brand that pulls in decent money. That's how it's supposed to work. Can you not see the difference between this and Foffa trundling up four years after the fact saying 'I do a cheap version of that, where's my money?'

We're not buying it.

And the thing is, if you were up front about what you do, admitted that you make a inferior product to exploit a market boom, then you might be alright. But instead, you come on here as if you're a cyclist, an actual bike enthusiast, and you ask us to salute your shitty BSOs, as if you've done anything that Create weren't doing half a decade ago. I sometimes wonder why you do it. Maybe it's a matter of principal for you? Or maybe, just maybe, it has something to do with that fourth result on Google...

Really enjoyed Wolf. What it lacked in originality it made up for in humour. I LOL'd in real life. More than once.

Just to be clear, did Steve McQueen actually end American slavery? Or did he just make a film about it?

Hard to tell from all the hyperbole.

romsense.

Repped.

I'd guess Mavic Aksium...