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I need a spoke length of 292.4, I'm guessing I should go for 292mm rather than 294mm?

My sentiments exactly

Trial and error (and near death) is all part of the learning experience. I need more practice making wheels anyway. also I've learnt that having a brake doesn't just make me a dork, it makes me an alive dork!

So, what was cheaper? A brake or the replacement wheel?

Your Avatar is a picture of a brakeless bike....

this is my bike btw - http://www.flickr.com/photos/33449131@N02/4475287351/sizes/o/

Not much of a looker but really nice to ride.

and 32h fixed fixed £26 http://outspokencycles.co.uk/hubs/zenith-hubs.html

you will want to get new spokes as well unless you want a wank wheel build.

Even with the same hub?

I'd be looking at another £25 on spokes so I might have to make do.

This is either misleading or dangerous.

You don't necessarily need a chainwhip (rotafix has been mentioned before) but you do need a lockring tool* (the pedros trixie will be fine although I have the shimano dura ace and think that it is better (more comfortable and more leverage)).#

*You can get away with using a hammer and chisel, apparently, but I think this is a silly idea.

I've used a hammer and chisel on an old-style bb. It was a silly idea but it did do the trick.

That only would've saved me headache if you'd posted it 2 hours ago. Now it would just cause me a walletache.

If not SJS has the system EX for £30

          [![](http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/20853system_l.jpg)](http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/src/lfgss/product-System_EX-System-EX-Hub-Track-Rear-Silver-36h-Fixed-Fixed--TH5236-20853.htm)

but for £10 more you get a matching pair of these beauties...

          [![](http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/11137hub_l.jpg)](http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/src/lfgss/product-SJSC-SJSC-Double-Fixed-Track-Hubs-with-High-Quality-Sealed-Bearings--36-Hole--Polished-Alloy-11137.htm)

They are lovely!
...but I would say that, I use them and no loose lockring here.
Infact I had to get the vice and hammer out to get the damn cog off last week to lace new rims on these bad boys

those are all 36h I need 32.

Also the reason for buying On One is that I can use the spokes and hubs again and it'll be a matching wheelset.

I've ordered a new On One hub and posted a wanted for a brake.

I'm gonna fit it all myself and use the rotrax tightening method without threadlock and I've bought a Trixie tool for the lockring. I could go to my LBS but I think one of the main problems with bikes is that people don't do these things themselves and it's less safe in the long run. Anyway, I'll have a brake if it does happen again. (If anyone has a 44/50cm drop caliper, pm me)

Tim

I'm after a reasonable quality caliper brake for a drop of 50/44mm (that's the note that came with the frame).

I went into my LBS the other day and they just made funny noises about how it was awkward. I didn't quite get their logic, it's a standard 530 road fork show here http://www.flickr.com/photos/33449131@N02/4476073308/
Any advice on wether I can't just get any old brake and shove it on appreciated.

Postage to Brighton please.

Many thanks
Tim

If I'm needed to make up numbers i'd be bang up for it. However I'll get in lots of trouble with my mates for not being in Brighton this weekend (birthdays, visits from home etc.).

So if guerillaphoto is making up the numbers I'll opt out.

Advice greatly appreciated.

Does anyone know if On One still sell the rear of this http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HUOOTRSF/on-one-small-flange-track-hub type of hub?

Hello

I'm after a rear hub to build into a wheel which has a hub with stripped threads.
New or old is fine, I'm in Brighton so it'll need to be posted.

Post here or Pm me.

Tim

Threads on any hub can get trashed if you're riding with a sprocket that's not on properly, a loose sprocket puts forces on the lockring that it's not designed for. I'd check the lockring threads very carefully as it's possible a few may have been stripped, and they're more important than the sprocket threads.

Also, IMO you shouldn't ride brakeless if you're not in possession of the tools or knowledge to fit a sprocket properly yourself.

I just haven't got the money to buy a sprocket tool, I've fitted and removed sprockets with a chain whip and an old bb tool but I was buying the stuff firsthand and it seemed easier and more reliable.

ho hum.

So, on closer inspection the lockring thread on the hub is screwed. It's ripped off over half of the thread and left the surface completely flat.
I still think there's more to it than just keeping it adjusted, a lockring/sprocket combo shouldn't do that surely, particularly if it was installed 'professionaly'?

Now I have to make the hard decision of wether to buy another one one hub which will use the same spoke length and I can just re-lace the wheel or go with something a bit more heavy duty, I don't want that happening again!

does your bike have an arrospok? sell that and buy a new set of wheels, a front brake, some bar tape and have change left over for a curry and beer.

On One hubs laced to Open Pros.

Another thing which worries me is that the wheels were cheap (£80 the pair) but the thread on one side of the hub is completely trashed, does this signal a problem with the hub or just bad usage?

I'd heard that on one are pretty good for their price

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33449131@N02/4475295923/

no it is your fault for riding brakeless and ignoring critical maintenance issues with your only brake. you idiot.

lockrings and cogs come loose anyway, you have to tighten them every so often. you have ignored this problem, and it got to the point where it was so loose it flew off.

i suggest you take it back to your LBS, get them to assess the damage, and buy yourself a brake.

I concur.

I was just surprised how few miles it took before this happened!

I'm getting a break as soon as I get paid, I can't even afford handlebar tape atm.

That's such a tempting proposition...

I tried a search on this but found nothing, so apologies if it's a repost.

Yesterday my sprocket failed badly, popping off the thread of the hub and leaving me clipped into a bike which I had no proper way of stopping going down a hill!

Basically I should've picked up on it sooner but tried to ignore it because I had a busy day. The sprocket moved a few times when I was accelerating away from lights and it obviously came loose and now I've paid the price.

The threads on the different components all looks reasonably good, the thread on the Surly sprocket is practically perfect, it's only a month or so old anyway. The lockring (Surly) and lockring thread on the hub (on one) are slightly damaged but not much. If was any other component I'd just chuck it back on.

The sprocket was attached to the bike by my LBS and I bought the sprocket and lockring from them firsthand.

Is this in anyway their fault, could the combination of components be a problem?
Should I just locktite it and put it back on?

Thanks in advance, Tim

Shortcuts? Tired?

It's not like it's a bloody marathon!

Hover bikes ftw!

Had the same happen to me

Chain had damaged spokes but it was fine for a couple of months

then had an odd journey home one day from Surrey hills, handling of the bike and braking were really odd

the spoke had snapped

It happened to me in Italy, my back wheel had gone catastrophically weird, bad braking and not smooth. The derraileur was knackered and it was impossible to stop the occasional throw. I didn't think much of it but stopped to get the wheel trued.

I stopped at a swish Bianchi dealership as it was the first bike shop I'd seen all day. The guy in there trued the wheel and wouldn't accept any payment for it. As I was leaving he wished me good luck. turns out that behind the cassette was the most knackered set of spokes you'd ever seen, chewed up and horrible. I think he really meant what he said!

You may not have noticed it happening or it could happen when installing the cog, take it ff and have a look it will be fairly obvious if it has happened and isn't the end of the world just swap the spokes out.

I have this problem on my geared bike, it's a bit of a bodge and even on a brand spanking new wheel, a single chain throw can do a decent bit of damage! It chews up spokes real nice.

you're best off coming up with a budget and putting a wanted post on here, someone is sure to have what you want at the equivelent bike to work scheme if not cheaper!

t

+1

For the price of a first hand bike even with the saving through bike2work you can get something that fits the bill on here.

I managed to spend about £50 on a bike which got me to Slovenia very nicely.