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Sumo tried to poach eggs for our lunch. Suffice to say it was not a success.

I have reservations, to put it mildly, about cycle training being used as a punishment.

I see your point, it should definitely be a different experience to the same cycle training you give to people who go willingly, with more emphasis on the dangers and consequences of bad actions. I was thinking something similar to speed awareness courses (not that I know what they're like but they seem to have an impact).

But even enforced, grumpily-received education is going to have more positive long term effects than a rap on the knuckles or a fine.

I'm going to wade in. If we're thinking of how to generally improve road safety, I've thought of a basic strategy:

• If a driver is caught committing an offense – a choice between a fine and a road safety/cyclist awareness course (like speed awareness courses for speeders)

• If a cyclist is caught committing an offense – a choice between a fine and cycle training/cycle safety course

• Cycle to Work scheme to include compulsory cycle training.

• The driving test is expanded to include more points on how to behave around cyclists and teach why cyclists do things like ride in primary position

• Every school, university, institute and large company offers it's students and employees government subsidised free cycle training AND free road safety training (I'm thinking nationally as lots of people drive to work outside Central London)

Basically I think education is the key for all parties, with cycle training and road safety training encouraging users to understand and acknowledge one another. Only then can everyone start to communicate in the way Skydancer describes upthread.

Yes, drivers are the ones that will kill someone if they make a mistake but cyclists can also put themselves in danger just because they don't know any better and by pushing both cyclist and driver education with equal force you don't get the finger-pointing at the other group for getting off lightly. There has to be a balance both for political reasons and for practical reasons. It's no good hammering home the rules of the road in one party if the other is left ignorant. You can nurture the most informed, considerate cyclists in the world but if drivers still don't understand why there's someone riding in primary in front of them it's not going to help the general levels of aggression we see daily.

There will always be shit drivers and shit cyclists, but if a campaign of information is implemented now and doing cycling training or a cyclist awareness course becomes 'the norm', and if all new users from their very first driving lesson or first bike have these lessons ingrained to their experiences, then in 5-10 years time there may be fewer shit drivers and shit cyclists.

/2p

Qatar's world cup stadium looks like a fanny

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-accidental-vagina-design-for-qatars-first-2022-world-cup-stadium-released-8947447.html

Rapha magic

Bomber jacket is now sold btw

Cross-forum merge

Yep, except mine has pink lining like the one below. I'll take some photos.

None taken!

The XS is too big for you?

Do you eat?

I'm a rather petite girl. I don't know what I was thinking, the sleeves were too long even with the cuffs folded over so it was clearly never going to look right but my Rapha lust overwhelmed all logic.

I've got a Bomber jacket in XS that's basically new, selling because I've finally accepted that it's too big for me. Anyone want it for £50 before I put it on ebay? PM me.

What time is it?

Adventure Time?

o.

Ow.

http://www.upworthy.com/see-how-a-bunch-of-awesome-danish-people-made-an-immigrant-bus-drivers-day

That's super cute but what are they singing?

over the years a growing sense of unease about immigrants within the country has grown.

This sentence slightly irked me.

"By appointment to The Earl of Kentish Town"

This is what everyone at Rapha HQ has to call Simon Mottram, accompanied by a little curtsey or bow.

I saw him going into an auction house in Angel the other day. Noticed the hardshell jacket first of course, then the face.

If we're having separate things for racing and training/social...should the racing item not be a skinsuit? Or is that a bit too pro.

Glad you like my little detail Khornight...psychological mindset can mean everything and feeling like you look super hawt can help ;)

^^ That also sounds good

or to ditch black and go for a coloured jersey.

What if the base is a colour with a black pattern on top? Or do what I did with the ladies jersey and have a black front and back and coloured side panels/sleeve/collar.

http://jezebel.com/5900928/your-vagina-isnt-just-too-big-too-floppy-and-too-hairyits-also-too-brown

WHAT IF MY CAR BREAKS DOWN AT NIGHT AND I DON'T HAVE A REFLECTIVE ENOUGH VAGINA?

I often ask myself this

Bump! What's the situation on this then?

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Haha, perfect

for scoot...

http://pokemonxniccage.com/

I saw this when it was only 4 pages long and didn't believe the guy would actually do every single Pokemon...props to him!

This is the best

PokéRap (Pokémon X Nic Cage Edition) - YouTube

Confession number 1: I bought Grazia

Confession number 2: In Grazia there was an article about how the Sugababes have reformed, and looking at the photos I thought 'Hang on, didn't Rhianna used to be in the Sugababes?'

I was thinking of Beyonce and Destiny's Child (I also just had to check that). I'm the worst young person ever.

Is this an opinion aimed at all braklz riders or just lettiemarsh?