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Planet x Pro Carbon with Ultegra £1199.99!!!

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That was a super fun ride after a sketchy start. The food control points were great, hug thanks to everyone going out of their way to put those on.

Will definitely be doing it again next year.

Anyone missing an ESB half green/half raw? My brother spotted someone in Vicky Park with one and they did not look legit.

Prov sold

Actually £10

I have one of these:
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For collection from Lauriston rd before 6 today. I have two packets of capsules as well.

£15

Telephone number 07five455six3four8six

Pedals sold

Bars and stem still £15

Yes lots of people do not need training, but lots of people even with driving licenses do things of a bike that is just plain dumb. It's not all about being a danger to yourself, it also has a knock on effect to the people around you. The person who witnesses you get squashed, the driver, your family and friends etc. Training is maybe not necessary but raising more awareness to things not to do (positions you don't really end up in in a car) is really important.

Exactly, I see people doing it all the time as well. Just this morning the guy was a lot closer to getting killed then other days. More needs to be done to raise cyclists awareness to the dangers, either by campaigning or by compulsory training if that is the only way.

Called an idiot on a Boris bike out on my morning commute before he almost got killed, but he wasn't listening. Then made sure he knew after how fucking lucky he was and that he was an idiot!

Tipper lorry on the inside lane west bound at Old st roundabout, stopped at the lights indicating and half way in the cycle lane that should be removed. I was waiting on the out side of the lorry waiting for the lights to change and traffic to move away safely. several cyclists of all breeds went down the inside. I should have called them all out but that's not important. I can see the lights change and the Boris biker in question who cannot then decides he is about to make the inside pass I shout to stop to no avail. Fortunately for him the driver saw him after starting to progress forwards stopped and gave the guy and almighty beep on his horn. I pass the lorry on the outside and catch the cyclist up, he looked in shock and like he might need to change his pants. He got a talking to by me, unsympathetically as it was all his fault that he almost lost his life.

Yes that junction is badly designed and the cycle lane gives a false sense of security that people can pass on the inside. But to be honest seeing peoples habits at other junctions if the cycle lane disappeared people would still do the same.

We need to stop cyclist being on the inside of lorries. Yes the LCC is doing a good job at campaigning for making the lorries safer, which I am for. But not enough is being done to make CYCLISTs safer!

Morning moan out the way, but personally I do not want to witness someone get killed, especially due to an idiots poor judgement and bad cycling putting themselves in a position of such danger.

Pedal prov. sold

Bars & stem £15

Price drop
pedals £12

Bars & Stem £17

Cinelli Criterium bars 40cm and 1A stem 9.5cm

Not perfect but ok £15

MKS pedals, BLB double leather straps and miss matched cages (one single, one double) £15ono Sold

Sorry I forgot to put collection only from E9 or EC1V

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Spotted some plank this morning trying jump the traffic lights at the Goswell rd, Old st/Clerkenwell Rd crossroads. White shitty conversion, no breaks or foot retention and heads phones in.

If you don't take ffm's I'll grab them.

But if a driver who is obeying all the laws but misses a cyclist run up the inside lost in there blind spot, is it the drivers fault? My view would be no.

Yes the number of accidents is low with Barclays bikes, but that does not mean that they cannot be improved!

As the title states I need a pair of 1" forks with a steerer around 250mm long.

I need them pretty soon as I have just noticed my Pake forks are cracked right across one leg near the crown.

There are a few small bits I'd change through preference but I love this.

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The video will have the affect of getting people to sign and improvements maybe made from that. But I am adverse to some views that what we need to do is put all the responsibility on drivers. In this case it is HGV, but still being on the inside of a car or van will cause injury, hopefully not as serious mind.

That is a very hard, almost impossible task to make lorry movements through 4-7am, it would have to be all lorry movements between say 9am-4pm.

Example; new building built by an inhabited building, would the residence like be woken at 4am? Or would all the retailers in central London like employing people to be in store extremely early to take/load delivers?

Unfortunately, because of London's early development it is not and very hard to make parts of it cycle friendly. The loads are not narrow enough like say central Amsterdam to prevent large vehicle movements but also they are not wide enough to add separated cycle lanes.

Yes a bad driver has the potential to cause more human damage. But my argument is we as cyclists need to encourage the people with a lower level of understanding and ability to improve. The problem is that non-cycling members of the public have a bad perception of cyclists and singular campaigns like this do not help that. We have to show that we are trying to help combat our own problems rather then off load them.

So why don't we campaign for a cycle license scheme or you are not allowed to cycle without undertaking bikeability training? This is how a non-cyclist will view such arguments. So to avoid the inhibiting nature of such a scheme we need to be more proactive in our own back yard.

I think sensors are a good idea and the LCC should campaign to the government for it to be compulsory on all new lorries. I just think, especially in the current economic environment to try and make councils to make companies retro fit them. A small firm will struggle to justify costs I can imagine. How much are the sensors to fit?

This will push all the work to the large companies that might be able to afford this retro fitting.

The LCC need to run a joint campaign to stop cyclists cycling on the inside, as this will also hopefully save lives! This will give the current campaign more weight and respectability to the LGV drivers.

Equal responsibility should be shared amongst all road users. The danger is still there, if you are on the inside of a lorry and it turns left it could still kill you with barriers, but yes it is reduced. A driver may still make a mistake through ignorance or accident.

Reduce the number of cyclist on the inside also will reduce the fatalities. Unfortunately what ever we do it will not stop eliminate bad driving.

The video on youtube by the Met on LGV safety shows a 44ft artic with about 4 mirrors pointing down the inside and there is still a blind spot. There are only so many mirrors a driver can safely look at.

Also we expect companies to spend large sums of money on updating/improvements and the vast majority of cyclist are unwilling to pay or to arrogant to do some basic training.

I totally agree.

I just think the next major campaign should be closer to home!

The bicycle is lethal, just not to the same extent.

I just think as cyclists we would get more support if we were more proactive and self criticising in campaigns. Yes we need to make lorries safer, but they are still lorries.

And as being the exposed, at risk link in the equation we need to do more ourselves to keep us safe. Starting with better cycling. I just feel that we are trying to put too much of the responsibility on others with these big campaigns. I am sure/know that a large quantity of forum members are good considerate cyclists, but there is probably a larger number of people on the road have minimal cycling experience or just ignorant to the dangers.

I am personally not a fan of the video. Yes, I am for increasing safety by improving vehicles and drivers, but this video does nothing more then shock people in to signing up. At the same time alienates the LGV community.

Firstly, the impact is from behind in a shunt style. What in the campaign is there to stop these style deaths. My understanding, maybe I am wrong, is that a significant number of the deaths by LGV's were on the inside of the vehicle. Some caused by the driver, some due the cyclist putting themselves in a vulnerable position.

I wished that the money spent on the video created something more even and highlighted the harrowing effect of being caught on the inside. The information for actual cyclist safety if poorly placed on the website. It takes three clicks from the video and is one bullet point mixed in with other text.

This is my two pence worth, which I am sure people will disagree with, but more needs to be done in putting the more weight of safety on the cyclist. I personally see a larger number of poor cycling decisions then that of major vehicle mistakes.