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--- if i want a really strong build that will last a long time ---

then a good wheel builder should be your choice ;)

Alrite Rocker ;) The almighty forumengers may well be right. All I know is that in my share of bunnyhopping-biketrashing-rimbashing riding I'm yet to destroy a well built 32H. But I'm not big nor heavy, just a hard rider. 36H is heavy and stiff and generally a drag?

Hey Rocker, why do u think 32H isn't strong enough?

...unless you inverse shim it

Awesome you're on the ball mister :D

Rocker my vote goes to anything other than goldtec. I hear some of those hi flange plain no brand hubs you get from sjs etc. are value for money (also sold as `formula') if you don't want to go fancy. As for allen key fittings, never had a problem with slipping on the dropouts, nor have I ever stripped the thread despite tightening the shite out of them in fear of slipping.

Have you tried flipping a coin?

42/15 x 165mm = 2.8 or 74.9inches