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Just to say thanks to ehren_fried_chicken for today's class. A very pleasant afternoon - I learned a lot. E_F_C was patient and explained it all well.

recommended.

thanks

Before fitting everything to my refurbished frame, should I stick something into the tubes for extra protection? If so, what? WD40?

Look for an Omega. About £40. Pretty good and not difficult to get hold of from LBS or similar.

Thanks Chaliapin.

Those wheels came off the old Dawes Double Blue that I had nicked and have been sitting in the shed since I converted it. I just thought I might use them on this "new" build since I'm trying not to be wasteful about it. The frame I'm building up now is a bit more modern (early 90's) and I think was build for 700c wheels so either I need new wheels or new brakes, and since it will cost me for hubs and spokes anyway I think I may as well buy new wheels for this build but maybe I'll use these to learn how to do wheel building.

1. kx.001
   
2. Jacklamusica - am very keen, 90% sure I'm free on the 14th
   

1. Nick G - if I know where!
   

these are cheap but i don't no about there quality

http://www.byercycles.co.uk/01R0908.html

but you can't order them online you have to fill in a order form and send it to them with a cheque or what not.

I ran a rear for a while. No problems. The guy who runs Byercycles is a proper old school track guy and supplies serious cyclists so I doubt they're crap but he did say to me you get what you pay for when I bought it.

I'm told these are good. Available in Black, White, Alu, Yellow and Green I think.

Xero XR 300

http://www.velomax.co.uk/displaydetail.php?product_id=1002

Pics and more info. Rear is not Argent but Modue "E2" as above. 36 spokes. Atom hub. Front has lost its model label. Also 36 spokes, Shimano hub. They came off a Dawes Double Blue that I bought in 1991 and which was originally made by around 1979. I have no idea if these were the original wheels with the bike.

Are they worth selling, converting to fixed or forgetting?

Model number should be under the BB. They're not the most helpful at Dawes but if you send them an email with the number there's a decent chance they'll tell you the approx age and the model of the bike.

Looks familiar - I think that's the one. The front just has a label that says Mavic.

DK about Argent, I have a feeling E2 is on the label. I'll count the number of holes when I get home. Does the 32 holes include the big hole in the middle where all the spokes areand the other slightly big one that the pumper thing goes through?

will post some pics later. Mavic rims, traditional hubs - (may be Shimano) - will only do rear. I'm also going to convert an old tourer for my son - not looked at it carefully but probably generic wheels.

I have a pair of Mavic wheels from an old racing bike. I was going to order new wheels for my build but them wondered if I might save the best part of £160 by converting these old ones. Presume this would mean buying new hubs and being careful about getting the right size spokes (I presume whoever builds the wheels can advise on this - I may even join the wheel building class and do my own) but I was wondering if this is going to prove to be a false economy and I'd be better just selling the old wheels and buying new.

Any thoughts and other things to consider here?

If in London I'm interested.

I have two old rear wheels from geared bikes I'd like to convert to fixed. Would this be a sensible way to go abouts learning how?

My teenage kids seem to win most arguments with my simply by saying "your mum".

I don't know why, but they seem to think it works.

I've been thinking about doing this fixed, but...I'm 46, not ridden much this year except the odd 25 mile weekend spin and about 35 miles per week commuting.

I'm reasonably fit - got myself up a 14% 5 mile hill in Shropshire last week (Clee Hill) on my road bike.

Am I being overly ambitious?

There's a whole load of suggestions in this recent thread - I've had the same problem. In the end success after about 2 weeks of soaking in caustic soda.

http://www.londonfgss.com/thread20985.html

Good luck.

You must have missed the Portuguese cheat's bottom lip quivering like a tuning fork, then.

Have you ever needed an example of a gag that has passed its sell-by date?

Thanks again, very helpful.

Thanks Jono, they both tapped out pretty easily.

I guess the same goes for the one that sits at the top of the fork crown. I'll do that when the last of the stem has melted away.

You see those chrome cups that the bearings sit in? Before I send the frame to be powder-coated do I need to remove them or can they just mask them over?

If I do need to remove them, are they screwed in or do they push out. I've not tried hard but they seem pretty well stuck (like just about everything else on the frame).

I can only assume they must be removable because they must wear out. those one look pretty smooth at the moment so I'm not too fussed about getting them out if I don't have to.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nick

swallow = shit bird

It's the birds that spit that are shit.

These are cheap wheels with flip flops. I ran a rear for about 8 months without problems.

http://www.byercycles.co.uk/01R0908.html