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I'd say i put in more time on a bike like that than anyone else on here...I owned it!

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If people see bikes like that as a joke then so fucking what...it doesn't make all the fun i had on them any less valid...does it?

I know they were fun.. no doubt. Phase or not, i just think it was a really silly evolution of bikes.

but wait that was your bike? that particular one? just curious.

I dunno what you're saying about phases and my posts before.

i've always wondered if retrofitting coaster style brakes to a bike runs the risk of destrouing the chainstay under a hard braking

You're forgetting one thing though...not everyone cares about or follows 'phases'...some people simply ride certain set ups because they find them fun.

Also...most people never bought huge full suspension frames simply to use for urban riding, dropping flights of steps etc...they had them for downhill use, but that didn't stop them having fun playing around in the streets too.

Small wheels for off road served a purpose too.
At the time that Brooklyn released the original supertrucker it was pretty much the only bike using 24x3" Gazzaloddi's and monster T forks...they started using them because the 26" wheels around at the time weren't really up to the kind of riding the bmw boys and their friends were doing. They were destroying wheels at places like platekill and dropping stairs in central park...they were going bigger and needed equipment that allowed them to without needing replacing so often.
Some people were using 24" wheels for years...hardly a passing phase...Mark Weightman even won the european champs on 24" wheels and a 57lb bike.
As most 26" tyres at the time only came out about the same diameter as a 24x3" Gazza too it meant they got stronger and stiffer wheels without suffering too badly from the poorer rolling.

It was all just about having fun basically.
A bike isn't useless simply because it uses equipment that people now see as outdated...or from a phase long since passed.
Bikes like the early BMW's for example were never meant to be flat out race machines...they were all about fun and going big, without breaking.

I couldn't care less about 'phases' personally...if i'm having fun on a bike, ANY bike...that's all that matters to me.

Ever spent any time on a bike like that? Just curious. And you're forgetting a lot of bikes running 3" tires. Banshee was doing it, is the main maker I'm thinking of. So was Clifcat. They are ALL dumb. People talk about them as jokes nowadays. I've put significant time on 24" wheels with 3" tires and it's a complete joke.

what about this guy?

MTB became Freeride and overshot the curve with bikes like that. A couple of years of riding around on those tanks brought things back to where they are now. People are still going huge, but riding with much more style.

anyway somoene else can have last word. I'm dropping it after this.

;-)

Now the Mini-LInk on the other hand looks like a fun toy.

i'm pretty sure a lot of bike companies would beg to differ that 24" wheels are no longer relevant.

dmr, curtis, revell, identiti, ns bikes to name but a few making 24" specific frames.

dude, those are all KILLER bikes (ignoring the revell). They aren't huge 40 lb hucking machines with slick tires.

come you know what i'm saying.

If you're talking function, THEY were a joke!

i know. one of the stancions blew up in my face when i was riding.

Little wheels, with masses of travel.

wanna go

just what is messy about the wheels?

sun double track - heavy, but reputable rim
maxxis hookworm - reputable tyre.

if it's being used for "urban freeride" or whatever, where is the problem?

yes, that is the purpose, but there's no such thing as urban freeride. it existed for about 3 months two years ago.

here's my thinking:

the wheels are small, heavy and have 4lb slick tires on them.

it's a useless bike.

small wheels are bad for off road. That was a phase that ended pretty quickly.

Full suspension is pretty useless for urban/street. It was a phase that ended pretty quickly also.

this bike basically takes the biggest frame you can buy, and sticks horrid wheels on it.

this is of course all my opinion. welcome to disagree.

When did the Shiver SC qualify as flexy? Kids these days, you never had to ride Rock Shox with the 1" stanchions!

i used to ride this in 1993:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4230/marzocchipf12.jpg

nice huh?

Sorry Scott:


Still my favourite DH bike ever.

it's a classic, but as a functional bike, i still consider it a joke.

+1

Save the best for last...

horrid. the wheels are total mess and don't belong any any bike.

reeeee?
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So long as he's on vocals

day time, to boot.
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fenders and chainguiards are the only place wood belongs on a remotely modern bike. and thats a stretch.

i'm sure that paint isn't going to chip off on at least 15% of the nipples when the wheel is being build.

Good article on Vials

http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/nelsonvails.html

first comment on that page is interesting.

I live in Boulder and can remember Mike Aisner (of Red Zinger/Coors Classic fame) organizing an "all comers" sprint to advertise his race. The sprint was downtown and Nelson was there with his "trick" sprint bike. It had a rear derailleur and two cogs. The derailleur was operated by a brake lever. Upon starting, Nelson held in the lever keeping the bike in a low gear. As he came to speed he realeased the lever and the bike upshifted to a higher, and faster gear. Very cool... and yes, the man was ALWAYS smiling. - Carl N.

i've never found depth of field funny before.

Finished the Pinarello.. just need to get some track friendly tyres.

i promised myself i wouldn't ride it on the road.... but i can't resist when it's nice and sunny outside!

nice. I don't know if you've been on them before, but you're going to love those wheels. I've put them through a lot and they're still straight and tensioned.

are these tires any good?

sorry if i.... the first pages of this thread with Ed had me laughing.

i just googled "many wives"

haper was an added bonus.

weapons of mass misery.

any of you ski in the Rockies?

those are very hard to come by, kerley. stop yanking his chain.

Fuck off you quim!

He's put the tyre on back to front. Basic error especially for someone 'who has built/modified his own frame'

cool.

For fuck's sake. All the decent newspapers are full of this skiing/snowboarding bollocks for the whole of the winter. Give us a break please.
I realise that most aficianados of this malarkey are thick posho twats, but surely somebody smart with a commercial axe to grind must have set up a forum or two?

Try this. http://www.epicski.com/forum/

Break a leg...

tough time breaking a leg in this smoke:
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