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I disagree Dayno- the point being that the shock of the home islands being bombed enabled Japan to admit that they were beaten.

Yes a lot of people died, but having to fight them into submission by conventional means would have led to a greater death toll.

So, speaking to your theoretical survivor of a war of aggression I would say that killing fewer of their compatriots than might otherwise have been killed would count as a positive.

Yeah i see what you are saying, but wait, this is all based on the story that this is one of the reasons why they bombed japan.... i am saying well, lets go back to the other reason i was thinking on...

...the people involved in the plans to bomb japan, the US, couldn't they have been just vicious cunts - i mean, do we have to link all the info together about the lies and the bullshit thorughout history to gve ine thing credence over another or help it to justify a wrong doing.

With regards to the info above regarding why they did it, just saying i couldn't sit infront of a survivor and be so sure at that explanation and say to hypothetical survivor, so - yep, better off matey!!

just does not fit for me

what is with your banana fetish? this is hardly the place to go into a waving of dicks arguement about who has done the most community work, so i won't.

maybe you should, and take your misunderstanding of white noise with you.

constantly talking about how we didn't go to the moon, 9/11, 7/7 were inside jobs is going to cause people to dismiss you as another conspiracy theorist kook, much like your banana fetish is now doing.

dude,

I am sick of all the half arsed half stories we get fed by governemnts and media, they can give you a full story about the kids and even then it'll be bent into shape to cause as much anguish as possible for the public..... just want some straight shooting answers is all... i was here when that shit went down, i heard the news, i followed it closely and i heard what the nutty ctheorists had to say.... for me there are questions go unanswered

banana - slipped on a banana, you know - old useage, "so how comes fred broke his leg and can't come into work" ...."yeah well, you know, he was walking along, slipped on a banana"....... the story is used to legitimise an event, the banana is very unlikely....

the guy, abdul bassett, lockerbie bombings - he was sent home to lybia recently right, turns out some dodgy trade deal has recently gone down between No 10 and libya....

someone slip on a banana - no i think not......

"As we know the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki achieved both these aims. It's likely that the cost in human lives and human misery was by far the lesser of two evils. The fact that you have the right to express your opinion freely, and an internet to express it on owes an awful lot to those terrible bombs."

sorry, i could not agree less in the above statement u are kinda saying it was Ok, arguing on a strategic basis.... that's certainly a view but in my mind doesn't make it justified.

so much pain caused to innocent people....

they were a vicious enemy - so they had to get it!
they were going to get it from the russians anyways so - did em a favour!

none of these arguements could be put to a survivor when standing face to face...

When does a 3 become an s?
There's your conspiracy right there.

Some lame Pshop and I am a graphic designer, I don't even drink tea.

You dropping your steaming pile of shit into this thread was the only baiting going on around here.

hahahahaha, easy easy,

no i was writing, as stated, my view on what seen in the media and stories like this. the use of emotive stories always,in my view detracts from more pressing matters as individuals and collectives.

as people where making comparisons to severities, i said these 9 things bug the fuck outta me, i stated on one or 2 things what i felt but they are questions that go unanswered.

You were actually the one who had a pop at me first, and continued.... if you wanna play the game on the puter don't fucking cry when someone throws it back.

I don't like things laid out in front of me, so i can then get upset and emotional about it. This is the world we live in, nothing is EVER as straight forward as you like, to many vested interests, if you fail to see that then you don't get the connections, no matter how shallow or deep.

From whispers amongst mates, bullying you see in the office, shit carries all the way up, the processes of power and politiking remain, just had an instance, " oh we need so and so and so an so in the thread now"

handle it yaselves

try reading my other posts.

oh yeah those, they are just white noise mate, nothing to worry about just all huff n puff, wanna do something get out in the community bruv

be careful not to slip on a banana

^ white noise

maybe thats what iran and north korea are planning in their uranium enrichment programmes. though iran would try and lanuch it via scud missile so it'd probably land somewhere in africa

well mate, i don't wanna create to much WHITE NOISE, but that uranium -ozzie land is no 1 supryar

don't get sold on iran dude, we got sold on Iraq - well, that too apparently was "white noise"

Velo "i just felt that people were treating this act with much greater seriousness than other bad things that happen"...... alert alert alert

"white noise" alert

what other bad things?

fuck here in lies the problem, australia is full of tooooo many english, lebanese, croats, africans, irish, scottish, greek, tialian people who just thought there place was shit (some indeed where) and just fucking bailed, so now we got a bunch of people in oz who really, couldn't cut it in their country, didn't want to do as young andy w here an man the battlements, go to oz and start on and on about how they want autralia to be

wtf - where's that 4th nuclear bomb gone for sydney

http://www.triplejunearthed.com.au/artists/View.aspx?artistid=1676

mask - i won't be baited, you go get yaself a chai latte back to your graphic design job..

velo - i think it's great you think that what i write is "white noise", i mean hahahha, yeah so funny and what a turn of events that USA now tells people they can't use nuclear weapons (looks up at sky for answer) funny that, whooops just slipped on a banana....

3 nuclear bombs on Japan? Do tell.

the pumpkin bomb was the number, it wasn't a fully like the other 2 but certainly was a "tester" for the ballistics guys, it creamed a lot of people, should we mess about on technicalities when discussing the fact that people on the planet today did that shit and even condoned it?

MASK - wtf with the atom bomb and the imposed image, bad fucking taste

I like this one.

yeah plus 100 on that

sweet how much that set ya back?

no chain tensioners, no laptop covers, both counts calling people out to be on their bikes, work mustn't be that good at mo! or you are bored at home, i am off on bike soon...

thanks for above

@ pistinator - shit situ, shouldn't be happening, my view is...

this is all trivial shit in the news that detracts discussion between people and communities away from more pressing matters like......

1. How the fuck does a US Nazi bankers 2 sons end up as presidents of the USA
   
2. Why did the american government not prevent the bombing of pearl harbour when they had intelligence it was going to happen
   
3. How were the Americans able to perpetrate the single most hostile terrorist attack on japan not once but 3 times with the nuclear bombings???
   
4. Did we really land on the moon? I mean, in all human history, when have humans done something so great like that and then..... left it to be!
   
5. Why the fuck would over 1/2 of the family members of those who died in 9/11 be part of the many groups who claim the trade centre bombings were an inside job?
   
6. Why did the press release from scotland yard the day of the 7/7 bombings say the job was done with military precision, and the next day it was a group of 1/2 arsed terrorsists. Why did eye witness accounts say the blast's blew holes in the floor, then reports come out saying people carried bombs onto the train? And to end that saga off why oh why was that brazilian guy assassinated on stockwell tube weeks after...
   
   

once you have spent some time researching this go onto...

1. Why the fuck are troops in afghanistan?
   
2. why the fuck did we get fed all the bollocks about the credit crunch?
   
3. why the fuck did the scottish government release old matey on compassionate grounds and how fucking stupid do politicians think we are when they get on and state unequivocally that trade deals and this fella's release are in "no way linked"
   
   

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER shit people are talking about.... are they "conspiracy theorist gone mad" peddling a view cause some of the shit they go on about makes sense over time

just some thoughts, that could precede these other things in the media ..... time for some lunch to wash that down with ;)

need to get this asap, would like to get a decent one, anyone recommend a place up town that i could go to today/tomorrow

thanks heaps

..."ride natty ride.."

http://static.londonfgss.com/memberpics7925-albums519-picture4714.jpg

these are bombproof and really comfy, no velcro here

hahaha, quit yo jibba jabba..

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and this, this was a special time for me, saw these guys in sydney metro a month after this album came out... still sick today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-FHsmVXrRs

nice one on the "be good tanya's" Hovis, real nice

on the folk / country feel, loved this as a 5 year old in the 70's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrytTQCbomk

If anyone's into country and blues I'd HIGHLY recommend this fella, William Elliott Whitmore, he's ace! Been listening to him for a few years now - amazing voice!

http://www.myspace.com/williamewhitmore

http://www.williamelliottwhitmore.com/

He's playing at The Garage Mon 14th Sept. Hank III(Hank Williams' grandson is doing Sat & Sun)

fuck that guy is real good, will have to keep an eye on his dates...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKl0hEw-INQ

the bogan is coming out in me of late

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

What amazing way to ruin a beautiful bike. That bar and stem combo is horrible.

can see how it kinda fits though, not sure on that bar tape, strong v's or the like in one colour would suffice

thanks, yep thats it.. prob regret getting rid of these as they'b so freakin ex[ensive in oz. but they havn't heard of wireless or boradband in many places!!