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7.30 for me I'm afraid.

^this. I know it's hard work and there's a feeling of "we try this every year". But slow progress is still progress. It was on the agenda for LHBPA this year (and I've done some reading on what was discussed previously) but we've been totally time-holed by our efforts to build a base at HH.

Thanks Kev

I also think it's healthy and sorry to Manchester for the debate happening here!

If anything has fucked UK polo (or global polo) it has been the
over-emphasis on competitive (or even 'professional') tournament play.
This only really benefits the top teams.

Well said.

London has had a big problem with this imo, fostering of beginners is a big part of what the lhbpa is focussing on this year and hopefully next, the scene is dying because of a certain elitism among some players "I won't play with them it's not worth my time" is a horrible thing to hear and ultimately, means you won't have anyone to play with. It's so short sighted it's funny more than annoying. Luckily we have some players willing to invest the time and effort into welcoming new people to our sport.

I hear you on how big the TBC tournaments are, but it's still a weekend out of 50 taken out of a years worth of regional players being able to attend or put on other tournaments. The league is a local thing mostly played on weeknights during the winter. I'm not sure comparing the two is helping :/

I'm really not hating on the TBC league at all, I think it was a wonderful idea to build upon! It's a bit of learning really. I'd really like to see an NS next year with the same level of organisation and more importantly: focus on the fun, and general community improving rather than the top.

Just like in London with our league: Every year bench vs teams comes up. They both have many upsides and downsides but IMO my vote next winter will boil down to: Bench helps cohesion, inclusivity, and the standard of play across the city generally improved. The downside is we don't form teams who learn to play as a competitive unit to go on and play nationally or internationally... but it's not going to matter if we don't have an active community of mixed ability for them to play and improve with, or to source new players from when people leave/real life.

The important thing is we're still trying different stuff every year to make it as best as we can.

On the fun tournament note I got n email with an exciting subject heading last night which I can't wait to read after breakfast. :D

As long as by no frills you mean lots of beer and questionable sleeping arrangements

I also think it was coincidental. But perhaps it's a coincidence that could've been avoided,if a decision was made with more info or understanding of London Polo currently, rather than assumptions based on where we were in 2013/14. It can't be argued this would've been difficult to do, or ask for input on. Indeed, it was even challenged by multiple 'non elite' teams from London. These last two points especially, led to the feeling of segregation/divide Miles talks about.

To answer @HA, I think it is a good analysis of the outcome, but not the aims: I totally understand the aims of the TBC league, and it has helped those smaller scenes out, which is awesome! But I have to say I never understood why it couldn't have happened alongside the London League (which is quite short-lived)? Especially considering those elite teams would've been focussing on international stuff (as there is more of that about now?).

Furthermore, it's surely easier to run a UK Series of tournaments alongside one or two cities local leagues, than it is to run a TBC Series yet expect there to still be regional tournaments that are more open, as Rob points out. What scene can afford to effectively double the amount of tournaments it throws every year? Even London would've struggle to put on an NS alongside the Open in its heyday. This year we are doing neither: There simply aren't the bodies.

Basically what i'm saying is, in my opinion, the TBC would've been a great thing to execute in that way it was executed about 2 years ago. The international, national, and regional situation is very different now and that wasn't realised/addressed. The segregation of London wasn't a good thing for anyone.

There's still a summer ahead of us. Podium is better than ever. Get organising and fix this! I haven't been to any tournaments this year and it sucks.

Anyone wanna trade my 14 for a sick MTB? I want in on this.

hah!

Actually, reply with this:

Then just turn up as the kids session is ending.

It shouldn't be that way at all though. Peter has asked us to 'book' out of making sure it doesn't conflict, not as a way of getting money out of us.

The kids sessions have been at that time and on that day for months now, and they asked us if it was going to be a problem before they started them.

The above means to say: I think whoever replied to Chris' email is either having a super bad day/attitude problem (neither is new) or has the wrong end of the stick completely.

Chris, you don't have to reply but if you could forward the email to any of us we'll try and sort it, by politely asking them WTF and explain there really isn't that much money in the sport to play those kinds of fees, and our reluctance to even maintain the current structure with that kind of rhetoric is wearing thin. Which I suppose solves our problem of dismantling and disposing of it :)

For many reasons don't have the patience for this shit anymore.

Play at Downs.

Man I don't even need to guess who that is.

Can you ask them politely what happened to the £2.50 sub per player per day arrangement we've had for the past 18 months?

Email them and ask?

Don't forget to email them asking if it's free :)

hernehillbookings@gmail.com

Here, lets go! Hurry up! Etc!

PS: cycled past court earlier, will need cones

Tony is BACK IN.

YES FAM.

See?!

Tony considering that you whine all the time about people who cancel that's a bit of a dick move, non? Also you're proving Beagle right which is abhorrent behaviour, it will only encourage him.

I'll be there at 6. It'll be cooler by then. Also have spent most of today riding around central London so y'all need to HTFU tbh.

dem bantz tho

Worth a polite email asking if it's booked for any weekends and can we have reign of it for the unbooked ones?

Are we doing the BBQ thing or wha?

hernehillbookings@gmail.com is their email address. They have asked for 48hrs notice so they can get back to us if it's already booked/an event will need use of the MUGA.