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right i'm gonna ride this on tuesday

spent ages re-learning barspins and suicide no handers at lightwoods park, but i think i'm gonna put a brake on and do some tech shit at kings heath, IF we can find it.... hopefully mark will scout it out tomorrow and take us straight there on tues.

and hopefully it won't be raining.

i use 48 x 18. 48 x 16 sounds like hell

i see

i didn't really look at prices, but yeah its bound to be overpriced... these things are just intended to extract as much money from people as possible without donning a mask and gripping a shooter or a blade. you'd have to be daft to deny that. i bet the stalls cost shitloads though.

i tend not to notice the stuff that i would consider crap if i had noticed it, just because it doesnt interest me. the main thing i thought was shit about it was that it makes it hard for me to do my job... but i love olives, cider and jamaican food

what's shit about it dfp?

Nah man, i know exactly what you mean. Not nice to be in it all day but I love it when it rains just before i'm about to ride home from work, and it's heavy as fuck - I must look insane to other people but I actually really enjoy it and it puts a big grin on my face. Not only is it very refreshing, but it's pretty funny. You're passing all these people in their enclosed, soft-interiored drywagons with comfy seats and warmed air, and watching people RUN with umbrellas. What the fuck are they running from? They seeem so scared of a little bit of water, while you're having a good time letting nature moisten you and it actually does feel quite nice and you wonder why they're so afraid of getting wet.

Skin is the ultimate breathable, waterproof base layer, no need for waterproofs! Could have done with the waterproof jacket on the ride from Leuven back to Overijse though, just to keep me warm...

It's 'pastries' actually, you dyslexic fuckwit

that flyer looks like the monopoly man... i wonder why they didnt call it Monopolo

I fancy doing some drilling now actually... what is it about drilling that's so satisfying?! I wanna put holes in the dining table just for the sake of it.

I reckon cotteridge is closer to where you live than Bare Wood, but if you don't borrow Ethan's drill, you can borrow my drill.

Well I say 'my drill', but it's Vanessa's. But you can still borrow it.

If you're going for pre-built wheels, you also have the option of getting a normal mountain bike wheelset, either with a rear cassette hub and a singlespeed conversion kit, or with a threaded rear hub and a singlespeed freewheel.

With the former option you'd have a huge choice of wheels, anything from cheap shite that costs less than a night out on the piss, to expensive professional featherweight bling that costs more than you earn in a month. Due to the 135 spacing of cassette hubs you would have to open the rear end of the frame up a bit, which is only really an option if it's a steel frame. Otherwise you might be able to remove 15mm worth of spacers so it'd fit, but I doubt you can do that with a cassette hub...

With the latter option you just need to get the rear wheel re-dished slightly (you can easily do it yourself in about ten minutes) and replace the large drive-side spacer with a smaller one. Smaller choice of wheels, but if you're dealing with an aluminium frame then this is probably your only other option.

Alternatively, bring me some track hubs, rims, spokes, nipples, a bottle of Dragon Stout and £20 and I'll build the wheels for you.

lol... heavy rain, 'nice'! it's only nice when you're on your way to stay somewhere dry!

Is this the thing in cannon hill park that costs bare money and all the snooty people go to? Thought that wasnt for a couple weeks.

no, the thing that's in the middle of town, is happening now, and is impossible to miss

obvious troll is obvious.

Riding fixed does limit you but removing the fixed element also means there are other things you can't do. If your so against it don't do it. Honestly this argument is stupid you have your opinion and you are posting in fixed gear freestyle section of the forum about how it is retarded to do tricks on a fixxie skidder bike when most of the people posting in this section clearly think the opposite.

And stop before you crash into me at skate parks...

huh? i'm not trolling, in fact i'm trying my best to be reasonable and positive (apart from the two sarcastic posts, but excuse me, i had - and still have - beer in me).

nowhere have i said i am against it, in fact i am trying to be more pro 700c trickery, hence me posting this thread in the first place.

again, you're putting words in my mouth.. i never said it is retarded to do tricks on a bike with a fixed wheel, what i actually said/implied is that it doesnt make sense to me, limiting what you can do, when you could do so much more with a freewheel... in my original post didn't insult or provoke anyone.

in fact what i actually said is there in post #1... but... ahh.. i can't be arsed to try and get a reasonable point across any more. too much idiocy, too much twisting of words. since no-one (apart from dangeruss) has provided an intelligent answer or discussion, then fuck it. i'll stick to me usual 'urban' forum hangout where there be intelligent people.

thank you dangeruss for posting the ONLY sensible response... sadly the twattery:sense ratio is much higher than i anticipated.

to the rest of ya, enjoy your backwards-moving, self-imposed, pointless limitations - while the rest of us enjoy that nice thing called progress. goodnight. (or should that be good morning)

anyone been munching that? maybe you guys could meet up there for your friday drinky thingy (dan wanted some suggetions i think?).

its open 10am - 9pm every day. i believe the caribbean stall thing was barbecue-ing some jerk chicken when i rode past at 8 this evening, fuck knows if they were cooking breadfruit but that stuff is heavenly if cooked well. the polish stew thing looks nourishing. i keep riding past an olive stall. olives are sex, but in the form of fruit. i truly believe that money is better spent on food than booze, nourishment and flavour rather than drunkeness and bodily destruction, but each to his own, and actually, Hogans' cider stall looks like its worth attending - I might sample after work tomorrow. hopefully it's better than weston's cider but who knows. what this has to do with fixed wheel riding apart from the suggestion for your friday drinking meetup, i dont know.

you need a brake to ride bmx? you need big tricks to have fun? ok, your world ;)

did i say "you need a brake to ride bmx", you bellend?

did i say "you need to do big tricks to have fun", you bellend?

sorry for resorting to petty insults but you actually are a bellend. well not literally a bellend but metaphorically. because you are blatantly twisting my words, ignoring what i'm actually saying, pretending that i've said something that i haven't.

just for the record, i actually ride bmx brakeless for the time being (only because i nicked the lever for my work bike). the only thing i cant do without a brake is fufanu's and abubacas

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right thats it ive actually changed my mind about the whole thing. i'm going to have the tubes of my bmx filled with sand to make it doubly heavy, so that i can't bunnyhop as high. then i'm going to put glue in the bearings so i can't go as fast. i'll deflate the tyres slightly so i can't do 180's or 360's without popping the tyre off the rim. it'll completely stop me from doing all the tricks ive learnt over the years but who cares, it's an interesting challenge and a bit of fun! woohoo!

fixed freestyle, or '770cmx' (pukes on cock), is flawed to fuck. take away the fixed wheel and what else is there? big, janky, weak as shit wheels? Every step taken to make fixed freestyle work (wider tyres, more spokes, stronger forks, high riser bars, flat pedals etc.) is a step towards... well... a BMX bike. It shouldn't be any more than a novelty clip at the end of a BMX video while the credits roll. Like standing up on a boogie-board or skiing on grass.

Just my opinion of course! I'm just bored of this inward-looking, internet-hyped, forced bullshit. I realise everyone desperately wants it to be the next big thing so that they can say they were there when it all started, but FFS it's nothing but a deformed hybrid.

Please excuse all the swear words and spite.

look, there's nothing wrong with purposefully limiting yourself so that you can't ride as good as you possibly could! if people want to keep on struggling to do small, wobbly tricks because they're constantly forced to pedal, then let them be! who cares if they're denying themselves the ability to do bigger, better tricks?!!!!1 after all, its best to make things as difficult as possible, for yourself, because it's cool.

I understand, i just dont see how its relivant.
Also i dont see how a coaster hub would work. Fixed isnt about not needing a back brake. It presents an interesting challenge and a bit of fun. Its also a change from bmx and 29'ers. If you put a freewheel on a track frame why not just ride a 29'er or something..

the same reason why people who ride skateparks on a mountain bike dont think "if i'm going to do this then why dont i just ride a bmx bike or something." they have already bought the bike, and they proabably use it for other disciplines too. a freewheel costs £6. a brake, cable and lever costs £30. how much does a new 29" bike cost? more than £36 I think. unless you're a thieving cunt.

you seem to be missing the point of my post, which is that a freewheel would open up way more possibilities for tricks. which is way more interesting than the supposedly 'interesting challenge' that the limitations of a fixed cog presents you with.

why anyone would intentionally limit themselves is beyond comprehension.

maybe i've missed the point of the whole fixie trick thing, perhaps its all about image and not about possibilities.

im off to the wagon for my mate's gig

need to build my strength for saturday by drinking lots of guinness

http://www.londonfgss.com/thread20570.html

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finishes 2 posts later :D

Got to disagree with some of the points made though. Utter bollocks - hopping is harder on a bike with a freewheel? Bullshit. The only thing tying people to 700c is the fixed wheel? Bullshit again. Then some bollocks about brakes going against aesthetics... since when has aesthetics been more important than functionality when it comes to trick riding... actually, I know the answer to that one...

How does a freewheel make you go faster?

I didnt say it 'makes' people go faster. Nevertheless, I think it's pretty obvious that a freewheel allows you to go faster for tricks. Seriously, it's not that hard to understand. Just try thinking about it for a moment. Watch a few videos if you still don't get it. It's easier for someone to understand it, than it is for me to word an explanation.

I can't get my head around the idea of doing tricks on a fixed wheel bike. It just doesnt make sense to me. I've seen some pretty impressive shit but it is quite painful to watch people struggle to do airs and gaps because they can't get enough speed to go very high or very far. Additionally, the risk of getting stuck in toe straps when you fuck up a trick is pretty cringeworthy even to multiply-scarred, crash-hardened, ex-stuntmen like myself.

Obviously the benefit of fixed is that you don't need a rear brake, thus you don't have to worry about detanglement of cables every time you do a barspin. But the benefit of a freewheel outweighs this by about a million! It's a million times easier to hop, you can go faster, higher, you flow better, and so on. And with a coaster brake hub you dont need cables, and you can do stuff like barspin fufanu's if you really wanted to...

The fixed trick bikes are basically just overgrown BMX's with toe straps and lacking a ratchet in the drivetrain. I can see them becoming more and more like BMX's in future. Do you think freewheels or coaster brake hubs will become more popular amongst 700cMX riders?

I say yes... and I look forward to seeing people breaking free of the limitations of the fixed cog, and effortlessly getting 6 feet of air on a 700c bike.

bump bmx sesh tonight 7pm bullring markets. fixie tricksters welcome tonight and sat

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Perry park track is being redone at the moment, but will be bulldozed after xmas ready for a half million £ track to be built.

2012 bmx world champs are being held in brum too, in the NIA of all places..

I'm off to Warsop in Mansfield to ride this weekend, great track

not that kind of BMX! I mean street riding.