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Got to say that I prefer the old dropouts, but overall I think the new one (haven't seen the forks tho) looks a tiny bit better.

Essentially they are visually the same.

Can you still get the old fork? And are the prices going to be a bit more reasonable? - they're being produced abroad right?

Must say I prefer the first but it's still rad.

POW!

Not sure I see much difference. Stays and dropouts?

goes to search for more pics

Just been having a quick browse of the Passoni site. Can't copy the images tho.

Got to be some of the sweetest looking ti work. Just love the way the lines of the joins on the headtube flow: http://www.passoni.com/popup_foto.asp?id=9&tipo=d

^ unfortunately its too big for me.

If I got it tho, I have to say I'd just get it rolling and leaving the pattina.

google says less than £70

^ for what its worth, those clamp-ons never seem to look great in photos, but in the flesh I think they look fine.

^^^ imo that orange bike is an eg of how not to combine a classicly-styled steel frame with modern componants.

Shit grip? Sounds like shit tyres - search for the tyres list thread.

i don't jump kerbs and i don't 'thrash' my bike. I know everyone's gushing over huge tyres at the mo, but i think its just a bit like the craze for bulletproof 36h wheelsets - ott for 99%.

imo 25c is the perfect balance between speed and comfort. I love the refuse, bc of the grip and puncture resistance (but thats just my preference). If you like a bigger tyre go for 28c. I think randos can go to a high pressure. Search and you'll find out.

^ what does that mean?

anywhere inbetween 23-28c is fine for london. Lots of ppl on here run 28c vittoria randoners. I use* 25c maxxis refuse.

*actually I don't because I still haven't got around to putting them on my new wheels.

EDIT: oh and for what its work the boston looks pretty good imo

If I did not have so much bicycles already and if it was a couple of centimeters bigger, I would be terribly tempted by this... lovely luggs!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-PEUGEOT-BICYCLE-RACER-1950S-PC-PH-PN-PX-/250693518698?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item3a5e7f856a

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+1 - i'm properly in love with this bikecollection of rusted parts.

Royce rear screw on hub - 28h / 126mm

Looks nice, but I'd be dubious of the seller ;)

Cheers - thats exactly the ans I'm looking for.

I've got a fair bit of faith in ppl. Obviously the world is full of dickheads, but when it comes down to it most ppl have a good side and it's worth trying to reach it.

I still firmly maintain that the vast majority of guys who do this really don't realise the effect of their actions. Trying to make them think a little will make more difference than doing nothing.

... If you don't object, men think its acceptable to act in that way...

Got to agree.

Exactly what action you take is a personal judgement call, but if you don't do anything then nothings going to change.

Are the vigorelli geometries square?

Their site says all sizes are c-t-c, so I guess sizes are just the seattube measurement c-t-c.

Anyone know what the tt length is? - or more specificaly what size would have a 52-54cm tt?

Cheers.

If you want to borrow one, are in London, and good at giving things back let me know.

Smallfurry is right tho, you don't need one, but like I said I think it does make it easier to build a nice round, evenly tensioned wheel.

Where as I trued my first set of wheels in a frame, then checked in a friends stand there was FA difference. For me a stand is just nice.

spoke tensiometer ftw

+1

In hindsight I'd actually put this over a truing stand. On the last set I built I used Arups tip of getting the tensions roughly equal from the off and it made the whole process so much better.

Altho i'm sure I paid less than £40 (altho I prolly didn't after customs).

If it were me:

1. meet outside the local police station - gives you and the buyer confidence.
   
2. full money upfront, in your hand. no. 1 will give them confidence that you're not then going to tell them to fuck off if they don't want it.
   

^ homophobe. And you avoided the question (also homophobic).

...men who think that wolf-whistling/honking/lurid comments to passing women will get them any kind of positive attention. What do they expect to get back??

Ppl always say this and it misses the point. It's not about getting a girls attention and picking up. It's done for a laugh. And tbh 99.9% of the time they do get a positive reaction, because they and their mates will prob find it funny.

Just out of curiousity, have any of the girls here had comments from a single individual? I'd have thought it's almost always in groups.

whats the tt length? Geo info seem in short supply on the internet...

^ I really don't know, but I'm sure the majority of guys who do this, do it because they don't actually realise how upsetting it can be. (in all honesty until I read this thread, I never gave it much thought either).

So If you have the opportunity/time (which I guess you don't in the countryside?), maybe just pointing out how it makes you feel and ask them how they would feel if someone did the same to their mother/sister/gf/wife. If you do this in a calm matter of fact way, I think it would actually have more impact and long term benefit that a rant.

Or if its a business and you can get a plate or co name, then write to someone there...

....I always thought it would be good if you could get a contact at a london daily to write a piece on it who would then use your specific eg of the co in question. Then you go to the Co before publication and suggest they implement some sort of training program so that the article can be spun to make them look good:

"we received a complaint from x and felt strongly so implemented this program...bla..bla... we believe that more co's should make and effort...etc...etc..."

@ tel - that baravus looks great - just right.

Either way the militancy in the video was obviously very positive, getting rid of drug dealers and giving the money they got from them to charities and honourable causes hardly seems like a waste

hmmm. I don't really want to drawn into an arguement on this, but I don't think things are ever that simple.

I'm putting off some boring emails so I'll get drawn...

...obviously when I watched that there was a part of me that thoughts "what a good idea, reclaim the streets from the scum through violence as the police have failed you".

Then I thought for a couple more seconds and thought... hummm... isn't the reality that a lot of street dealers are a bunch of fucked up addicts themselves and kicking the shit out of them might not be that productive. Plus weren't there a few too many holes in his story - "kick their heads in, flush the drugs, take the money"... then a bit later he says they also called the police sometimes. So why not just do it in the first place? Or just flush the drugs and give the money away.

Also robin hood? I thought the 'crew' had first dibs on the cash (to survive obviously), then it went to noble causes such as putting on gigs and charities. My gut feeling is the charities probably came last. That Dudus guy gave loads of money to the local communities in Jamaica, but at the end of the day he was still a drug dealer.

When it comes down to it there's no difference between the guy in the video and any other group of guys trying to subjugate and dominate others.
The Taliban had a pretty effective internal drug policy.

Sorry for the slight derail - can someone clear this up for me...

...I thought mavic 'ceramic' rims were that all over blacky-grey coulour, but after having a look for some touring rims, and there were a few silver ones with the ceramic coating. Is it just a clear coating applied to any of the breaking surfaces?