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When visiting the '10 TdF start I had the joy to ride mine
1991 modelThe GentsRacer-Carbolite is a very good and light bike
Tel's is from 1992
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Price drop !
140 gbp for frame, fork, Tange headset and Sugino bottom bracket ...including shipping
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Okay, thanks.
Hmm... that is not the target group my Zieleman is for. Much more sporty!
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What is "Zimmer Frame" if I may ask? An exotic German roadbike I have never heard of?
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Thx. This frame has many qualities, but growing till it fits you isn't one of them.
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lovely, what size?
Good Q!
Seattube 52cm c-t
Toptube 555mm
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Same for me. Not that I ever have seen one Zieleman that looked indentical to another ..and this example is certainly no exception to say at least. I base my knowledge on that it is a Zieleman on that it says 'Zieleman' and that it has been offered to me as Zieleman by the original Zieleman shop.
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Offering Zieleman frame with bits
Frame by Dutch/Amsterdam masterbuilder Ko Zieleman. Semi race model, so with fenders it will make a very nice bike for touring. I purchased the frame from Ko and son in law personally at the Zieleman shop a while ago. All Zielemans I have are very high end performance machines. This frame is a little different. It is a good frame in good shape, but it is a bit heavier and while each individual Zieleman is unique the number of quirky features with this frame is substantial. I know Ko built some frames with Shimano drop outs and ends, as Shimano asked him whether he would be willing to try a couple. Maybe it is one of those frames, as it has Shimano dropouts and ends. I do also know Ko built more touring orientated frames under the name Spirit, but this frame says Zieleman. Anyway, these missing pieces of the puzzle are reflected in the asking.
Finished in fire truck red with gold pin striping.
Condition:
It is a used frame, but given its age the condition can be considered (very) good. There are some chips on for example right blade and right side top tube, but the paint has a nice gloss. Construction is 100% sound.Comes with:
- Tange Levin headset
Not shown in the pic is a Sugino bottom bracket. That one will be included as well.
Looking for SOLD
I will do my utmost on packaging. Frame will be packed using foam tubing and everything will go well padded into a sturdy bike box.
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- Tange Levin headset
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Hmm... everytime I called him he didn't take the phone. The moment he did he had just sold it 5min before.
I am sad, but that I have one already softens the pain. I did some enjoyable trips with it earlier this year. The one up was pretty much identical, but it didn't have 'Gazelle' engraved in the stay tops and I think it didn't have a 2nd set of bottle bosses.
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Okay, who got that NOS Champion Mondial ATB frame from M'plaats?
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@ Skully
You do not look very harmed in the pic. Lucky you. Looks like a bad failure. A failure Duell can't do much about. Maybe the tubing manufacturer, but did you use the bike where it was intended for? -
Mid 80s. 531 Professional tubing >>>
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With all respect, but imho a FullPro-L deserves a full Dura-Ace EX gruppo and an owner aware it takes 700c wheels.
It has vertical dropouts so it is rubbish for fixed anyway.
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The lovely design on the top of the stays = 1980 production
Exactly!
(pic not of advertised frame)
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Me too of course. I think it is 57 or 58.
I don't know whether the rumours are true. Quirky traits of a builder certainly add the character of a bike, but this would be one of the least pleasant if true. Still only rumours however. Frankly, I haven't heard it before.
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Nice frames
On the FullPro-L: this was the ultimate Koga in the early 80s. Very light. Tange #1 tubing and slim microfusion lugs with muliple cut outs. All frames I've seen showed build quality way beyond the competition: smooth transitions, no gaps and a both tough and beautifull coat. This example is of the 1980 MY. Two things on the listing: fork and tail are chromed under paint, not entire frame. Moreover it should 126mm rear spacing. If it is 130mm than they modified it for wider hubs, what shouldn't be a problem if done properly.
a bit a dump price for this very nice frame imo
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Btw tiny bit bummer the pic and text of the bike in post 34 don't unveil much. It is mid 90s and has an interesting paint, but more you won't learn. Seller specified the bike as aluminium and 15 euro as starting bid. Doubt whether he is the 1st and original owner.
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I very well remember seeing an ueberlush TSX-2000 up. In same paint as mine, except for chromed fork and tail. A full Record bike. No cheapie. No way near the league of the bikes in post 33 and 34.
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My 59cm Duell: model Pursuit. NOS frame.
A pure criterium machine. This means it has to deal with 400x tight cornering and sprinting out of the corner per race and this everything on often far from perfect innercity road surfaces. The frame is build using Columbus Cromor tubing. Not light like SL, but a logical choice considering the use and if you want to do longer with the frame than one season.
Again the painter couldn't resist putting some serious effort in the paintscheme.
En profil it looks solid blue >>
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Very nice. Good value!
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Formula with wrong tubing decal?? >>
Can you tell DC?
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...and the Simon found a new happy Simon ...uhm, owner.
Sold it is.
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For this early 70s frame I would think it is 120mm, but I will check tomorrow. Normally, if it is 120mm, you should also be able to fit a 126mm wheel. It is steel and one step up is no concern.
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I recall that several years ago Koga offered a new FullPro Carbolite to anyone who could deliver them an early ProRacer. For their museum.