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This thread has gone off like a damp squid...

Aye. I do kinda feel for them, which is why I specified "the Met" (as institution) rather than directing my little rant at the specific ticketer. Morale is pretty low generally, I understand, in part due to pressure to produce "results" to be measured in crude numerical terms, which of course militates in favour of the sort of the policing I'm moaning about.

I agree with you there, if the petty ticketing was aimed at motorists in the cycle lane we'd not be complaining would we, (well I wouldn't) I guess traffic offences are all the same to the met. It should be extra points for getting cars!

I got one done at my lbs and got them to let me help so I knew how to do it the next time.

It does seem that there isn't enough police generally so they have a half hearted go at everything, and in the public eyes they fail miserably at it all. i wouldn't want to be a copper in this day day and age, it seems they have no friends anywhere. Everyone (including me) seems to think they could do a policemans job better though nobody does. Its a shame. maybe they need a pay rise to bring in new recruits, or just to see that some people have some respect for people having a go.

Because they've entirely given up on actual policing in favour of rushing about waving fixed-penalty notices at the softest target in range, security theatre like the endless searching of anyone brown and with a beard at tube stations and other forms of pointless dickery. Having grown up outside London, my experience of the Met over the past decade or so has been one of pretty much continual disillusionment.

So they should turn a blind eye to the small stuff and concentrate on the big issues?
Or try to please everyone in a society thats unsure of what the polices role should be in general?
Sorry, I'm not an expert.

+1 oh wise one!

This:

is but one reason why I would be disinclined to piss on the Met if it were to go on fire.

Because they punish people that break the law?

Are the few remaining cars worshipped as gods?

You too Skully.

Fixed.

He just seems so... manly.

swoons

He's probably fat.

all those are likely outcome but very fucking rare.

Is this an oxymoron?

I need to wipeout the fridge tonight.

Bear as a 'survivor' and as a mountaineer is clearly more hardcore (and more of a beefcake, who uses any excuse to get his shirt off-season 1, using it 'as a net' to catch fish[which he then ate raw]), but his program is based around eek factor. Its like watching dirty sanchez-Bear squeeze water out of elephant doo doo....

Didn't he fail to catch fish, then eat a fish that the crew had brought along raw just for effect? I thought thats what he said in the voice over...

He's a posh git that has more money than sense. If we all had trust funds and a mansion to retire to we could all play at being explorers. Get a job!

Where's the nudity?

this made me laugh: http://www.rathergood.com/britney

more misheard lyrics here: http://www.rathergood.com/Table/lyrics/

hehehe.

Aaah some classics there.

White unipack, blue wheels, 'create' sticker outside sainsburys moseley.

Helda's pink bike locked up at cannon hill park lots of times.

I think that one lives up my road in moseley, i've seen it about a bit.

Nasty stuff.....any pants stained?

;)

Unless your chain breaks...

I've broken loads of chains (well two in the last 6 months) while riding, all (both) at very slow speeds cranking it up a hill. Torque!

Kramer: It's a write off for them.
Jerry: How is it a write off?
Kramer: They just write it off.
Jerry: Write it off what?
Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.
Jerry: You don't even know what a write off is.
Kramer: Do you?
Jerry: No. I Don't.
Kramer: But they do. And they're the ones writing it off.
Jerry: I wish I could have the last 20 seconds of my life back.

If they want to screw their staff over for an honest mistake (not that I'd imagine this is legal) then it's their bad karma, man...

I was just trying to look after your kharma...

Having been a checkout girl, this actually happened to me, except it was a scam, and I got in trouble. The checkout person isn't Tesco, they're just somebody working there who is liable for your not returning the money. Eh, just trying to point that out.

+1. Your not just shitting on Tesco.

how do i fcukin know if i pmed first or not if no one posted on the thread - that is the fcukin point:{)

You know that you weren't first because you didn't get the pedals.

This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer tries to send Jerry's stereo in the post, cos the post office canjust 'write it off'. A Classic.

To me there is no question here, i would return the goods, as that is (to me at least) the right thing to do. Its what I'd want someone to do if I was on the other other end (and have been - we all make mistakes). So what your saying is: is it ok to do something that is wrong? No its not. Is it ever?

i ordered some new pedals from chain reaction a while back and had a similar experience. basically i ended up with more expensive pedals than the ones i ordered, but the wrong tool, i ordered a pedal spanner and got a spoke wrench? needless to say i felt like i had won. online retailers are obliged to check on their products and orders going out of their despatch areas. needless to say this does not bode well for their business practices when u receive either the wrong items or indeed too many items. ask your self this, if you paid too much for an item would they be tripping over themselves to get your money back to you as fast as possible....

I've gone for both options in the past. If I'm in Tescos and they give me change for a twenty when I gave them a ten, I'll keep schtumm. If it was my local corner shop, I wouldn't.

Similarly, if I'd been sent two expensive doohickies from Wiggle, I'd probably STFU about it, but if it was someone like Charlie the Bikemonger, of course I'd send one back.

Does that make me bad?

....or send one back and ask for a refund

Its good to know that people feel that its up to them to decide who really needs money and who has enough. I'm glad I don't have that responsiblility.