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why don't you get rid of those wheels on fleabay and buy a proper set of thack wheels for a little if any difference ?

lithium grease would be great :-)

should be the same as for formula hubs. not 100% sure though

it should be alright. i am 99.9% sure

The kid gave his final verdict. He wants the mongoose :-) Thank you all for great help and suggestions. Cheers

is this one any good:

http://www.discountcyclesdirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=7432

or at the same store:

http://www.discountcyclesdirect.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=7527

it's just over 200 so it should be ok price wise

Hiya guys,
Thank you all very much for prompt and useful replies. It's gonna be a 20inch bmx defo as the boy is quite tall and will grow quick quickly. He will mostly use it to have fun on the steets with his pals. The budget is around 200 so i do't think that he could have some proper maker's bmx but more likely one of the mainstream brands. Is haro any good?

That's great. You're then ready for the job. TBH i don't think you'll find the bits cheaper than that anyway.

if you're on tight budget but still want to do it wright here is what you need:

wheelset (not the bst in the world but it does what it says on the tin and it survives skids and so on)
:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110426499246&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

chainset (same as rpm just without the sticker)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390083293322&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

chain:

http://www.parker-international.co.uk/9912/Taya-410B-1-8-Chain.html

seatpost:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/System_EX_Alloy_Seat_Post/5360006738/

saddle:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Charge_Spoon_Cromo_Rail_Saddle/5360029530/

front caliper:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=13607

levers are depending on the choice of handlebars. In the above mentioned places you'll find plenty of levers as well.

hope it helps

Hi fellas, A friend of mine asked me for help on choosing some OTP BMX for his 12y old son. As i never ridden one i am quite useless :-) Could someone of you please recommend one that will not break the bank and do a good job in terms of reliability, rideability and looks ? Your help is much appreciated. Cheers

I agree with propeller. With 300 budget you'll be more likely to get a nice conversion project than a plug. except if you buy a plug frame and then just put some crap parts on to keep it moving until you save some more money for upgrades. conversions can be very nice and much lighter then the plug.

24tpi one

http://www.wilsontrax.co.uk/threaded-headset-alloy-24tpi-p-3818.html

or this one if after a raleigh 26tpi

http://www.wilsontrax.co.uk/threaded-headset-steel-26tpi-p-3820.html

disclaimer: i am in no way associated with this store :-)

Your best chance is to find a frame and build it up from scratch with that budget. Best of luck :-)

As squire discontinued that super lock i asume they are managed by some bunch of plonkers :-)

I disagree, but only because I don't know the composition of the steel. Doubtful though, if any boron was added to the mix.

Actually fred, there are two locks that will specifically last two minutes of angle grinder attack. Those are the Fahg Mini and
the Abus Granit X 59 (nearly 2 minutes). 'radar tested them, and the results are published. The Squire Paramount Plus also
passed that test, and probably was the toughest lock that ever passed it, and unbelievably, it has been discountinued by Squire.

If it still doesn't come off try to put a generous amount of plus gas penetrant fluid available from most motor factors,. halfords, screwfix. In combination with chainwhip it's gonna remove it :-)

got a new formula fg/fg silver and a specialized langster stock hub flip flop fg/ss in black

Hi guys. My Specialized Dolce got nicked around 6 weeks ago. I had it insured, but unfortunately the lock was a gift from a friend (as at the time I couldn't afford a lock having splashed out on my bike!!) and so, we have no receipt. the insurance company are asking for a receipt for the lock and even though I have explained that it was a gift, I am having no joy with them. Any suggestions? I can't afford to throw £600 worth of bike down the drain and I'm turning into a right mardy mare without my bike. Public transport smells :( :( :(

How about taking the insurance cunts to the small claims court. Write to them first asking politelly for for your money, if no luck, after two weeks write again asking again less politelly and if no luck again write for the third time with big bold title: LETTER BEFORE ACTION.
after the third one they'll most likely pay. if not just go to your local court and sue them for your money and court fees. you'll 99% win them and that will be such a great feeling :-)

AFAIK sugino 103mm is iso which coresponds to a shimy 107mm jis. that chainset should fit well on 107mm un 54

here are the properly priced cone spanners. not the best in the universe but just up to the job

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=10200

sorry, just spotted that it's to far to collect for me :-)

second dibs on the frame.

Crankset + BB + hub + cog (+ bar tape / grips) = your name

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Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Royce + EAI = kowalski
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record 111mm (80's) + Phil + Phil = tristoo
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Hub + Phil Cog = Sparky's Fuji
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Athena + Phils (Hub and cog) (+ Fizik bar tape) = Jonny
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Campag Pista = Platini
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record + Royce + eai = briankwan
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Pista + Dura Ace + Dura Ace = Skully (can't be straight, I never get anything right)
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Ambrosio + Phil Wood = Sano
Campagnolo Pista + Specialities TA + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = VelocityBoy
Campagnolo Pista + Campag + Araya + Phil Wood = 50/14
Campagnolo PIsta + Campag Veloce 111mm + System-EX + Condor = hladik
Campag Record Pista - Campag Centaur 111mm - Campag Record Pista - Phil Wood - the-smiling-buddha
Campag Record Pista + Record pista + Record Pista + Dura ace = gizmond
Campag Record Pista + Token tiramic 111mm + Ambrosio + Phil Wood + VO sewn-on elkhide= Smallfurry (BB asymmetric, buggerit)
Campag Record Pista + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5 + Phil Wood + EAI = Jonesy
Campag Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Dura Ace Hb7600 + Dura Ace = Cornelius Blackfoot
Campagnolo Record Pista+Campagnolo Centaur 111mm+Miche Primato+Condor CNC=Cosmonaut
Campagnolo Record Pista+Stronglight 110 ISO+Campag Record Road screw on with large spacer swapped from DS to NDS+Trialtech Sport=Mitre_Tester
Campagnolo Record Pista + Campag Centaur 111mm + Royce + On-One (& others) = BMMF
Campagnolo Pista + Campag Record Pista + Campag Record Pista + EAI = entwidomela

Dotek:
Dotek cheapy + Campag Mirage + Formula + Dura-Ace = fc9k
Dotek FG-PRO6-170 + BBUN26 68x113mm + OnOne small flange double fixed hub + Miche1/8sprocket = xroads (42mm chainline with chainring on inner side of spider, chainguard on outer side)

Dura-Ace:
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = hassanr
Dura-Ace 7600 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Surly = Dayno
Dura-Ace + UN72/110mm + Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Object
Dura-Ace + UN53/107mm + Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Dura-Ace + UN54/107mm + Dura Ace + Phil = Shinscar
Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace BB-7610 + Dura-Ace 7600 + EAI = flickwg
Dura-Ace 7600 + UN54/107mm + Novatec + some shit = Ant
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 (109.5) + Dura Ace HB7600 + Dura Ace 1/8 = RPM dura-fuckin-ace.
Dura-Ace all the way baby... = dovoneil
Dura-Ace FC7710 + Dura Ace BB7710 + Dura Ace HB7600 + EAI = town
Dura-Ace Old school 151 + UN54+ Sys Ex + On One= Eyebrows perfect (dangermouse)
Dura-Ace + UN54 110 + Dura-Ace + Dura-Ace = Charco
Dura-Ace + Stronglight JP400 + Phil + Andel = euan

Miche:
Miche + Miche +Miche + Andel + Miche = fixedfreak (max)
Miche + Campag Record 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Miche + Miche + Velosteel coaster = gizmond
Miche + Campag Record 109mm + Phil + Phil = gizmond
Miche + Miche + Navigator Pista + EAI = gizmond also
Miche + Sugino + Miche + EAI = Shinscar (surly)
Miche Primato Pista + Shimano UN54/110mm + Formula + Dura Ace = CHUG_IT
MIche Primato Pista + Miche + On-One + EAI = ummar01
Miche (Condor-branded) + Miche 107mm (cups adjusted 2mm towards drivechain) + Goldtec + EAI 1/8" = eeehhhh {46mm chainline}
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Goldtec + Condor = Buddha Fingaz
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Condor(IRO) + Surly = edscoble
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche = Hovis Brown
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche + Miche + Miche Pista = 50/14
Miche Primato Advanced + Shimano UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI = hamster
Miche Primato Advanced + Miche 107mm + Mavic 520 Piste + Roselli = entwidomela
Miche Advanced + Miche + Dia Compe Grand Compe + EAI = gizmond
Miche Advanced + Campagnolo Athena adjustable 111mm + Dia Compe Gran Compe + Miche Primato = a|s (although my driveside chainstay is out of whack by 5mm or so)
Miche Primato Advanced + fyxomantosis chainring 49t + royce titanium + phil wood 16t + fizik = germanmarc

Stronglight:
Stronglight + UN53/107mm + Sys-X + Formula= MA3K
Stronglight + Shimano UN73/110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Stronglight + Stronglight + SystemEx + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Stronglight + UN72/107mm + Miche + EAI = Richard Cheese (all 3/32)
Stronglight + Shitmano UN54/118mm + Goldtec + Surly/EAI (on 130mm dropouts for 50mm chainline, Pomino, Genesis singlespeed etc..)= RPM
Stronglight + Sugino / 103mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" = Superprecise
Stronglight + Shimano + System EX + BLB = maxcrowe
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Phil Wood + Phil Wood 1/8" (42mm chainline) = Spiny
Stronglight 2000 + Stronglight JP400 / 107mm JIS + Goldtec + Condor = lightindustrialunit

Sugino 75:
Sugino 75 + Miche + Condor (non Goldtec) + Dura Ace = brett
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood = adoubletap & Fred
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = d.mac ( if it ever comes back from Condor....)
Sugino 75 + Miche + Campag + DA = gizmond
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Wapping Warrior
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Phil + EAI Superstar = Object
Sugino 75 + Phil 110.5mm + Goldtech + Phil Wood = Dancing James
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + goldtec + eai = dogsballs
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI= 31t®um
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = Broker
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Phil Wood + Phil Wood= biles
Sugino 75 + Campag Veloce 111mm + Formula + Dura Ace = TooTallTim
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + Dura-ace= Build
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Surly = Dannoleeed
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino 75 + Shimano + Condor Goldtec + EAI Superstar = Nimhbus
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Campagnolo C.Record + Sugino Gigas = moose76
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace (109mm) + Phil Wood + EAI regular (euro asia imports) = moose76
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = shootthebreeze
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = works
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + EAI Superstar = jaygee
Sugino 75 + Royce 103mm JIS + Royce + EAI Superstar = welpeur
Sugino 75 + Stronglight + Phil Wood + Dura Ace (+ cut down odyssey grips) = jonny
Sugino 75 + Campag 111mm + Formula + EAI = maxcrowe
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 (109mm) + Dura Ace + EAI = mikec
Sugino 75 + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + EAI = jon_a

Sugino Messenger/RD:
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood = chris crash
Sugino Messenger + Shimano + Ambrosio + Condor = Shinscar (clown)
Sugino Messenger + Sugino/103mm + Gran Compe + EAI = VED
Sugino Messenger + Sugino + Hope track + EAI = Aleksi
Sugino Super Mighty + Sugino 109 + Dura Ace + Phil Wood = Dayno
Sugino RD + Sugino + Ambrosio + Miche = asm } both are pretty much spot on
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Sys-X + Dura Ace = MA3K
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Dura Ace/Andel = ChrisNW {44 front, 42 rear}
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Halo + Halo = Hotwls
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + OnOne = -=Mike=-
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Surly O.L.D. + Surly/Miche/Dicta = ShannonBall
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + OnOne + Dura Ace = Pifko
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Sys Ex + Miche = Eightball69
Sugino RD + UN53/107mm + Condor Goldtec + EAI= hamster
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm + Formula track hub +Miche sprocket (Miche lockring will no fit this hub) = gtvlusso
Sugino RD + Sugino/103mm+ Gran Compe + Token/Andel = Balki
Sugino RD (On inside ring) + Sugino/103mm+ Formula + Surly = entwidomela
Sugino RD +Sugino/ 103mm + OnOne + Andel = welpeur

Misc.:
Andel + Shimano UN54 110mm + Forumla + EAI = Jaimes
Andel/BLB + Sugino 103mm + zenith/formula + surly = dinosaur
Camapgnolo road double (Croce D'Aune) + 111mm ACH + Goldtec + Miche or On One or Surly or EAI 3/32nd = AlexB
Campagnolo Double + Shimano + Formula + DA = Tobyprice
Campagnolo Record time trial + FAG Nadax + SJS + Beans Cycles = BlueQuinn
Campagnolo Veloce Double + Campag Veloce + SystemEx = Hovis Brown
Campagnolo Veloce Triple + Campag Veloce + Goldtec + Tranzmission = BringMeMyFix
Campag Veloce UT+Record UT+Mavic Ellipse+Phil Wood/EAI Gold Medal=Mitre_Tester
FSA Vero + 110mm cheapo cartridge + Dura-Ace/SurlyFixer/Shimano LX = N3lson
FSA Vero + Miche + Gran Compe + DA = VED (spot on chainline)
FSA Vero + Shimano UN54 110mm + System EX + On-One = Buddha Fingaz
FSA Vigorelli + ISIS BB of indeterminate width + Phil + Condor = hippynice
Gipiemme Pista + Campag 111mm + Mavic + Dura-Ace (also Goldtec + Miche) = ondine
Gusset Pygmy 853 (gusset chainwheel) + Gusset Euro bb (145mm spindle) + Goldtec + EAI = hassanr
Middleburn RS1+ Shimano XT 68 113mm + White Bros Eno + Surly/ Miche = tommid
Ofmega 49t + Campag + Miche + DA = Tobyprice
Ofmega 52 tooth + Shimano/110mm Italian thrd + Formula + Surly = P!MP(somehow it works)
Pake + UN54 107mm + SJS/Formula + Miche = Frankie_j
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + Goldtec + Surly = yorkiefix
Paul + Campag Centaur 111mm + paul + phil = flickwg, nosferatu BIG UP PAUL COMP
Paul Comp + Phil Wood BRS10S 110.5mm + Paul Comp + Surly = Jonesy
Paul + Centaur111+ Profile + EAI= Eyebrows. Geekhouse (45mm thereabouts)
Profil Race Cranks with Gusset Chainring, Profile Euro BB, Philwood, Philwood = Object
RPM + Shimano UN54/110mm + Condor (non-Goldtec) + Condor = Brett
Shimano 600 + UN54/110mm + Goldtec 126mm track hub + 3/32 EAI = Prime heretic
Shimano 600 Road Double + Shimano 107mm + System Ex + a cog (possibly) = hippy TI Raleigh
Shimano 600 road double(gebhardt chainring) + Shimano 107mm + Systemex +cheapy cog = BrianClose
Shimano sora double + Prestine threadless 110.5 + on-one dble fixed + on one = Bernhard (42mm I think)
Shimano Sora (Double - Inside mounted chainring) + Shimano UN54/107mm + Novatech Hubs + Miche
Shimano 105 (Double - inside mounted chainring) + 105 Hollowtech + Formula + Shimano BMX freewheel = ctznsmith
Shimano Exage EX300 double (ring on outer side)+ Shimano un 71 113mm + Formula=ile
SR Apex 165 (118bcd) + Shimano UN54/115mm + System Ex (Condor) + Dura-Ace = cold blow
SR Sakae + Shimano UN54/118mm + SJS (SystemEx et al) + Andel = ChrisNW {42mm}
Sugino Langster Speciales + Sugino 103mm + System Ex + Ye Olde Englishe Coge = hippymess
Suntour Superbe Pro + Phil 108mm JIS + Dura Ace = tick.tick.tick
TA + TA(314) + Campag + Miche = Fruitbat
TA Alize Piste+Stronglight 110 ISO+Goldtec+Miche=Mitre_Tester
Truvativ + (??) stock bianchi pista + phil wood + EAI = asm }
Truvativ Omnium + Truativ GXP External BB cups + On-One Hubs + Miche/Dura-Ace = Pifko
Truvativ Omnium+Truvativ GXP+Navigator Pista+Miche=Mitre_Tester's sister-in-law
White Industries + Phil + Milwaukee(Ben's) + EAI = Archi Pelago
White Industries + Shimano longy+ LeVeL 135 + LeVeL = Eyebrows 52mm chainline!
White Industries + Shimano/110mm + Phils + White Industries = big daddy wayne
Zeus Pista (circa 80's) + Campag Pista 109mm + Formula + Miche = tristoo
Sugino Maxy + 3SB (121.5mm asymmetric) cup&cone + Miche + EAI = welpeur
Mighty (£15 ebay) + Shimano un54 122.5mm + sjsc hub+ sjsc cog = ile

That's just like I was thinking about those ratings. It's good to make this point clear to newcomers and people to lazy to read through all the posts. I just knew that those 13mm magnums can't play in the same league as krypto new your m18 and abus granit per instance.

I recently saw the oxford magnum 2000 with 16mm shackle. that one also looks very simmilar if not being the same lock with slightly different mask as onguard brute. I am just wondering weather oxford has extended the number of key combinations or it suffers from the same problem as brute with to few keys issued.

I would like to point something out regarding the sold secure gold rating.

I just spotted some locks in halfrauds called magnum plus (unmistakeably looking like on guard pitbull) just 13mm thick and carrying the sold secure gold sticker ???? I really doubt it can survice the same sort of attack that krypto new your d-locks and abus granit x-54 can.

Is it a case of coruption with sold secure certification or what do you guys and gals think is behind this.

Lately i spotted a tescos crap armoured cable costing less than a tenner and carrying a sold secure silver. I am very concerned regarding those sold secure gold and silver ratings and weather sold secure really means what it should.

ile, brought this to light. I'll try to find out if it is kosher.

http://www.sterlinglocks.com/acatalog/linklockdlocksheavydutychains.pdf

Managed to see the lock in person and put my hands on. IMHO i don't think it's up to the task. It is huge and very heavy but the key is the holly crap. Round style that in many cases can be picked up with a bic pen. I tried and didn't manage to pick it with bic but i just wouldn't trust it even here in a small town where bike theft is a child's play compared to london.