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As opposed to completely unsubstantiated opinions with "FACT" written after them?

And also, the Lotus 108:

Gorgeous bike, designed by a friend of my father's, Mike Burrows. Seeing Chris catch the opposition in the individual pursuit on that was so cool.

His last hour record was on a standard bike, as by 2000 the UCI had banned the more technologically advanced designs used by him and Graeme Obree

I remember a Jeremy Clarkson review of that bike in Performance Car magazine, which showed a pic of Clarkson riding it with a fag on the go. The caption was "after a few miles the engine starts smoking"

those this doesn't address the problem of rat running

We're designing a city. Rat runs won't exist ;-)

(And if we are 'converting' an old one we turn them all into shared use pedestrian/cycle streets)

I couldn't dislike driving more actually.

I suspect that may be the result of you driving a Nissan Micra ;-)

And you can ride them round a velodrome with cyclists racing behind

Oh, the other thing is to make journeys unnecessary - schools and shops close to home, work close to home, high-speed data infrastructure to facilitate home working. Homes with office space, and planning laws to encourage all this.

For most people any journey, including by car is a chore. It's the bit that happens between home and work. Eliminate the need for this and you eliminate traffic. Just take Christmas day traffic as evidence.

Surely you would define congestion as lots of closely packed cars driving slowly. Ergo, slowing cars down, perhaps by means of a 20mph limit will make congestion worse. I doubt that traffic flow would improve. You'd still have the same stop-start burst speed thing as now, just slower longer-lasting. And emissions worse, as (thanks to the speeds the official fuel consumption figures are measured at) cars are not designed to be efficient at 20mph, but at 31 and 56. Car design has to change to make 20mph cleaner (but all that takes is for european union/member states to also demand an official fuel consumption reading at 20mph)

DaveH said "slower cars = increased flow of traffic as you can fit more cars on the road"
This is inaccurate or confused.
Slower cars, by definition, is actually decreasing the flow of traffic. It is increasing the density of traffic, which is a different thing. Increased traffic flow is defined as cars moving faster.

To eliminate or severely reduce the use of cars in cities the most effective measure is probably to eliminate parking facilities. We all want nice roads to ride on, and buses need them too. If we ban all city centre developments from providing car parking spaces, and remove all car parks and street parking, then people won't drive into the centre of town simply because there is no point. I suppose we could actually just ban cars altogether, but given that you need people to have traffic sense so that police, ambulance, buses, taxis etc can still operate safely it's probably a good idea to allow cars and just rely on the fact that it will only be through traffic to massively reduce car use.

It is interesting how public transport is being touted as the solution, but really, how many of us use it unless we are forced to? We cycle in all weathers because tubes and buses are filthy, slow, dangerous, expensive and generally horrible. You can't eliminate any of those factors. Public transport is slow because it doesn't start and finish where you want it to and it keeps stopping to let other people on. It is dirty and dangerous because it lets the public on, who leave it in a state, spread their germs around, fail to wash, can be drunk, violent, homicidal etc. (and that's just the drivers, boom boom!). Ergo public transport will always be a less desirable option to those who drive a car, no matter how much you spend on it. I don't think you can price people out of their cars. you have to find other ways, and removing their practicality is probably the best option.

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Delahaye 135 with Figoni & Falaschi coachwork.

Yes that was what I was asking and how interesting! It seems as if there was a period after the war when the Italians designed everything automotive.

True. Most of BMC's output was Pininfarina, and most of Triumph's was Michelotti. Pininfarina also turned the MGB into the MGB GT and the series 2 Jaguar XJ6 into the series 3. The Morris Ital was not designed by Italdesign, however.

Probably not that many, although much of the LeMond range was changed to steel/carbon some years ago. I tried to verify whether it still is just now but the web-site only comes up with a 'product registration' page, probably because Trek has dropped LeMond:

http://www.cyclelicio.us/2008/04/trek-sues-lemond.html

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2008-04-08-trek-lemond_N.htm

Nasty. And it's all over geared bikes. Strange passions, eh?

(NB I have four geared bikes and one fixed. ;) )

LeMond has a damn cheek accusing Armstrong of cheating, when he won the 1989 tour on an illegal bike that had not been UCI approved. Fignon pissed all over him in the mountains.

Oh, and does anyone have experience of Rohloff hubs?

off the bike gentlemen atire at all times>

Not in town, surely?

I had quite unfriendly service from 'All Cyclists Are Cunts' on Oxford Street. I think they have closed now though.

Italian Astons:
All Aston Martins from the DB4 to the DB6 were designed by Italians. Touring of Milan did the DB4, DB5 and DB6. Zagato did a run of DB4GTs with their own bodywork (they were all on the shorter DB4GT chassis, by the way - those bumpers and stainless sill trims on the photo earlier are doubtless an owner addition, which is why they look terrible) Bertone did two cars originally called the DBS, intended to be the DB6 replacement, but nothing became of it, and after the William Town's-styled DBS model replaced the DB6 the Bertone cars were retrospectively renamed. The Towns design stayed in production until 1989, by which time it was known as the V8. Late in its life there was a new series of Zagato-bodied versions, both in fixed and drop-head versions offered by the factory. In 89 the Virage replaced the V8. This was designed by Heffernan and Greenly, who also did the Bentley Continental R (a much more successful design in my opinion). This continued through a few restylings until it was replaced by the Vanquish. This was designed by Ian Callum, (as were the DB9, V8 vantage and DBS that followed.) In the 90s the Virage was joined by the DB7, Ian Callum's first Aston, designed originally as a Jaguar XJ-S-based attempt to get the F-Type Jaguar into production, and redone as an Aston when a)Ford took over both companies, and b) it was realised that it was too costly to make and sell at a price the jaguar badge could stand, but the Aston badge could support a nice profit margin. The DB7 had a small run of Zagato-bodied cars towards the end of its life, being the third and so far last time Aston Martin offered a Zagato version of their cars. Any other Italian bodied cars, such as those pictured above, were either done on spec by the coachbuilders, or as commissions for customers.

Well the small chainring on the mountain bike is so tiny that you're spinning like hell and practically going backwards. The middle one I hardly use either. No big hills round here. I don't have a derallieur road bike anymore. When I did it was in Norfolk, so no hills anywhere and I'd only use the top 3 gears.

It seems you have not ridden up large enough hills yet or have the legs of Atlas.

The former. I grew up in East Anglia.

So, truthfully, how many of your gears do you actually use? Do you ever use the front mech?

I'm not sure I've ever ridden on the small chainring, and I'd say I've probably never used more than 5 cogs on the back of my mountain bike.
On my 3 speed I never use top. Although I'm upgrading it to a 4 speed so I'll see which of those gears I never use ;-)

I fail completely to see the point of the Campag 11 speed cassette. Or even a 10 speed one.

Heh!

So Johnson (and Cameron, who is no.2 in that pic) are posh and went to a decent university and joined a dressing up and dining club. Big deal. Why does this debar them from being elected? And why does it not debar an avowed communist like Livingstone? A man who seized control of the GLC in a coup from the democratically elected candidate and then ran London as his own personal fiefdom thereafter until its abolition?

Hero: Terry Wogan, for calling shenanigans on Eurovision

Villain: Bernie Ecclestone, for doing everything he could to try and prevent Hamilton winning the F1 championship.

Pumas.

Speed Cats, Future Cats, Mostros, and sometimes the high end stuff.

What about the Empress of India, just across the road?

Edit: never mind. it's too restauranty.

Could be up for this in an hour or so. let's hope they open.

i will keep posting in this thread i like a city without cars because THEY SUCK

You specifically argued against roads. Not just cars.
LOVE THE SHOUTING by the way. It makes your opinion look so much more valid.

All the gears you need ;-)