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I'll give you £10 and a hard time for those Bars, as you owe me.

Tentative second dibs even though its too small....

it was dedas stiffness at the cost of weight tubing which for a track frame is no bad thing.

give me a columbus max or zero frame over carbon anyday

If you are into stiffness over weight you should try Hex or Air. :)

Deda Zero is a pretty basic double butted tubing in truth.

I've recieved PMs from shitting loads of people.

Heres the deal with the rear:
Its a double fixed HF silver hub. One of the two lockring threads are fucked. Thus its effectively a fixed free hub. Its supplied with one lockring. The spokes are sapim and the rim is a white Velocity B43. The hubs have done thousands of miles but are still as good as new (aside from the lockring thread on one side). The rims and spokes have done around 200 miles and are perfect too. I don't have a camera so I can't take pictures, but the rear is like the front, and has done no more than 50 miles since the matching front was sold earlier in the year.

In order to unite the pair I am going to hold the rear for the person who buys the front. If they don't want it I'll then pass it on in the following order of dibs:
downlo
syntek
facefart

'ta

It was mine.
And I have the matching rear to sell as well for £155.

I'm kind of a newbie and I wanted to build my first "cheap" conversion
Went in BLB with a frame I got off eBay (a very nice road Peugeot / SuperVitus), I wanted a very cheap way to adjust the chainline to begin, just to try the "fixie" experience (after which, btw, I never used freewheel anymore)
After treating me like an idiot they tried to sell me almost everything they had in the shop, pointing out that I was an ignorant and everything they were proposing me was absolutely indispensable to begin riding.
They asked me something like 150 quids to buy new crank set, bottom bracket, chainring etc. telling me that there was no other way to adjust the chainline but changing everything

I went to sheldon's, got some shims off ebay the very same day, £3.99, and never went back to BLB ever since

Its probably that one with the moustache. Hipster cunt.

I know that there are lots of ways round the 135 spacing thing, but I think its more of a psychological thing. People seem to think along the lines of: fixed = tark = 120

And perhaps that fixed = track thing and mentality is majorly pervasive.

I dunno.

Object: May I suggest one technical thing, as a non fixedtricks rider that may accoutn for alot of the use of fixedtrick/track frames over mtb. That being the dropout width. The vat majority of fixed hubs are 120mm and the vast majority of mtb are 135mm. I should imagine that has alot to do with it. Also steel over alu, but then there are plenty of steel DJ MTB frames out there, so maybe thats a moot point.

But I must say I am interested in your questions too, also as a non fixed trick rider with a history in MTB.

is it a prestige with Hex tubing? I can't see from the pictures. If so its Columbus tubing and worth more than your £350 by a good way.

Would be keen to see a picture or two!

Come to the shop and we can do this. BLB that is.

BD: 40cm I think. 23.8 clamp.

Macek: PMed

Still got some of the stuff.
Open to offers.

Formula are fine and Phil is fantastic

Sold

Just out of curiosity: how can you tell?

sorry, Meant under loaded touring - what the guy was about to embark on.

The spokes were 500 year old jobbies that were very far from ship shape.

ED: RRP for a pair of LF is £300 now. Phil prices have gone up and dollar has fallen, so UK Phil prices have gone up by quite a bit.

Phil woods Hubs are £130 Front RRP and £170 RRP rear (dbl fixed), and colour annodising adds around £25 a hub.

I didn't see this thread, so started a new one, but as this is here, here is what I have to say:

Disclaimer:
I know I have in the past been totaly against shop related bitching, and have defended all independant shops, and that in opening this thread I will appear to be a massive hypocrite, but due to genuine safety concerns I am going to risk the hypocracy and post any way.

**Preface: **
All shops and mechanics cock up, and all shops spend a small part of their time fixing the work of other shops. this is to the best of my knowledge totaly normal. I know at BLB we have fixed jobs from every London shop, and I am sure all have fixed job from us. Its fairly standard practise. I also know that publically telling these stories is not a done thing, and this may set a bad precedant, but oh well.

**Story:
**Over the past two days I have seen two foffa bikes at work. Aside from the fact they are built from utter shit (cranks that cost about £6 on trade for example) and sold at too higher price (£350) the issue that has come up has been one of safety. For example someone comes into the shop and says the want to ride to barcelona on the bike. We are like "are you serious". He say yes. He says the brakes don't really work but foffa said they were adjusted perfecly and all way good. Everything on the bike had play in it, and was dangerous. The spokes in the wheels could have snapped at any time and the barkes weren't even tight. I wouldn't normally think too much of this, but he said he had just coem from Foffa where the owner Danni had said the bike was okay and totaly safe.

Whilst I dont want to get in to a shit slinging match, nor go personal or into other details, I do feel there should be some record on this forum of the potential dangers of buying foffa "vintage" builds. I am not talking about the new Foffa frame, the new one, which is probably great.

I am just worried for the safety of anyone buying one of these bikes, something I could not say about any other shop despite have seen some of their worst jobs. And I feel its important to note this. Other shops have good and bad points and ups and downs, and of course get the odd thing wrong. That normal. I am worried for all bikes built by foffa, as the components are seriously sub standard and dangerous.

You might want to add a few more details for something you're selling at such a high price...

What else would you like to know other than if the rear is double fixed.

The RRP for these hubs in the uk is close to £350, so the price is hardly high.

I was going to post this in the other FOFFA thread, but it seems to have disapeared, so I thought I'd better start a new one.

Disclaimer:
I know I have in the past been totaly against shop related bitching, and have defended all independant shops, and that in opening this thread I will appear to be a massive hypocrite, but due to genuine safety concerns I am going to risk the hypocracy and post any way.

**Preface: **
All shops and mechanics cock up, and all shops spend a small part of their time fixing the work of other shops. this is to the best of my knowledge totaly normal. I know at BLB we have fixed jobs from every London shop, and I am sure all have fixed job from us. Its fairly standard practise. I also know that publically telling these stories is not a done thing, and this may set a bad precedant, but oh well.

**Story:
**Over the past two days I have seen two foffa bikes at work. Aside from the fact they are built from utter shit (cranks that cost about £6 on trade for example) and sold at too higher price (£350) the issue that has come up has been one of safety. For example someone comes into the shop and says the want to ride to barcelona on the bike. We are like "are you serious". He say yes. He says the brakes don't really work but foffa said they were adjusted perfecly and all way good. Everything on the bike had play in it, and was dangerous. The spokes in the wheels could have snapped at any time and the barkes weren't even tight. I wouldn't normally think too much of this, but he said he had just coem from Foffa where the owner Danni had said the bike was okay and totaly safe.

Whilst I dont want to get in to a shit slinging match, nor go personal or into other details, I do feel there should be some record on this forum of the potential dangers of buying foffa "vintage" builds. I am not talking about the new Foffa frame, the new one, which is probably great.

I am just worried for the safety of anyone buying one of these bikes, something I could not say about any other shop despite have seen some of their worst jobs. And I feel its important to note this. Other shops have good and bad points and ups and downs, and of course get the odd thing wrong. That normal. I am worried for all bikes built by foffa, as the components are seriously sub standard and dangerous.

You don't normaly get to pick. The frameset will dictate the headset you can use.

I'm a freehub snob, so its a definite thumbs down.

The freehub is mediocre and very quiet, limited number of engagement points.