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Well I am pretty sure that anything that causes harm has the potential for common law remedies in favour of the transgressor and against the guilty party. When chaining your bike you are either an inconsiderate toss-pot or you have some regard for ped safety.

Were such a law to come in it would be clear that you can park your bike in bike racks, and on public metal railings by wide pavements or squares. But parking them on narrow pavements would be a very bad idea, just as it is now.

I don't think your example is very good at all. The logical extension of your idea is that any law restricting parking of bikes would need to list all approved places, and all banned, and maybe talk about how wide pavements need to be for it to be acceptable to park.

And it would probably be necessary to park you bike in such a way that it could not be knocked over, which is what most sensible people do anyway.

I fear my point did not come across.

The reason commerial laws are detailed and complex, is that they try and formulate solutions for many "what ifs?" The problem with words like "reasonable" is that they need to be defined. My cycle analogy was aimed at showing, that whilst most forum members could not care less if tax regulations for multi-nationals are arbitrary, we would all be uneasy with being prosecuted for locking up our bikes, and falling foul of the "principle" of the offending (and imagined) legislation.

Therefore, tax legislation, aimed at maximising returns, being fair to all parties, and being consistent, must of its nature be wide ranging and complex. Simplistic stances such as "but you know what you should be doing" are more than a trifle naive, and loose sight of the fact that international business, have the choice of where to place themselves, and the amount of tax they pay in any isolated territory.

Spot on

Maybe not.

Let us move the discussion of reasonableness of law to something closeer to our hearts, say chaining a bike up.

All Daily Mail readers know what odious and inconsiderate people cyclists are, so there should be a law that bikes cannot be chained up where they are a "hazard" or a "danger" to innocent, law abiding pedestrians.

Now that the law is on the statute books, where can we chain our bikes, and be sure to be lawful? What if some irate pensioner pushes the bike over, and the next passer by cuts their leg?

Not as emotive as, say, Starbucks management charges, but I am not so sure we, as a community, would be happy with such "common sense" approaches to an ever present danger on our streets.

vad säger lagen, och vad säger moralen?

Damn, where's my IKEA catalogue when I need it?

I understand, and to a large extent agree, that the solution is improving statute.

That is not to alter the fact that in our society there is a hierarchy of jobs -

Very valuable - eg the people who staff our hospitals and teach our kids

'Normal' - eg people who sweep the streets and man our shops.

Parasitic scum - eg lawyers and accountants whose job is to find loopholes, who make money by defying the will of the people by exercising their right to spend their time thinking about the letter of the law and not the spirit. When such lawyers and accountants are dealing with commercial matters / contracts then there is an argument that they are not doing much harm, but when they are fucking with the spirit of criminal law and taxation it is fucking immoral, IMHO.

It is sometimes said that our views on taxation are a mirror to the face of hypocracy.

You "must" pay your taxes, but I "should" pay my taxes. Whether these be based on millions in an offshore trust, or a bit of Ebay trading, it is always easier to see the the fault in fellow citizen's fiscal morals, than in our own skewed thinking.

Taxation is an intrusion of the state, into the earnings of its citizens. There may be a greater good in the c.£7 billion that the Iraq/Afghanistan adventures have cost this nation, and that has been collected from citizens, but I am not convinced that there is a moral angle to taxation.

Let the law be clear, let people pay what they are due to pay, but in the words of the the leading tax case

*Every man is entitled if he can to arrange his affairs so that the tax attaching under the appropriate Acts is less than it otherwise would be. If he succeeds in ordering them so as to secure that result, then, however unappreciative the Commissioners of Inland Revenue or his fellow taxpayers may be of his ingenuity, he cannot be compelled to pay an increased tax” *(IRC v Duke of Westminster [ 1936 ] AC1 (HL)).

(Oh, and regretfully, I am not a lawyer, but maybe a little mildewed around the edges)

Sorry folks, but it looks like work demands will conspire against me.

Have a great ride.

A Hard Day In January
Saturday 26th, 9am — Berinsfield route

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A Hard Day In January
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I guess what clubman is saying is - "the reliability trial might have been canned, but if you didn't get out on your own, shame on you."

I feel suitably guilty.

I think Chris is too much of a gentleman to try and shame anyone, but it does show just how hard core a rider he is.

The ride in the story is epic but a polio sufferer with a calliper? Extraordinary.

rode home, nothing to report.

Hurph. Could'nt you at least make something up?

Like, "I took out a camora of Oxford dons, off their respective faces on 45 year old port" or something else suitably entertaining.

No A* in Creative Writing for you, my man.

Sensible call. Will be in for the 26th.

+1. Disappointing, but nothing compared to a broken wrist or collar bone.

Looking to make it out on the 26th if the rest of my mini crew are still interested?

A Hard Day In January
Saturday 19th, 9am — Berinsfield route

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I'm a member of DP. There was so much interest in joining last year that I think they've limited the number of weekends a month they do new joiner rides, it'd be good to check via the club website. http://www.dulwichparagon.com/

You may want to don sunglasses before visiting the site! Generally I've found the club helpful and very friendly. On occasion the group riding discipline leaves a bit to be desired, but I suspect that's because people are learning the ropes.

I certainly enjoy being a member, it's good to be able to go out and ride socially with an established group.

+1.

DP also organise reciprocal rights with Crystal Palace Tri, my club, so if you want to add some swim and run torture, to go with your road bike miles, the gateway to Hell is open and clearly sign posted.

I'll just get a backie on yours. Seems like a lot less effort.

I'll just get a backie on yours. Seems like a lot less effort.

Good call. I will bring the bungees ("Ohh err, Misses...")

Wait, the whole forum is going on this ride. I have to come too or I'll feel left out.

Do I need to do anything to join, or just turn up at the start with fiver in hand?

I think a bike would be handy, but don't let that minor detail hold you back.

^I'll dibs the Brixton pick up (but happy to give it up if someone else will have difficulty getting to the start).

Sold to the man with the matching jacket.

I like to think of it as 'steady' rather than 'slow'. But, yes, I will be going slowly. Company would be great!

Humm, given your performance on the last Box Hill ride, I would classify you as being on the "animated" side of "Steady."

Will be driving to the start, with one spare place in the wagon, from the Brixton area.

First dibs, first served.

I've got a mental picture of fiddy sidling up to a winged female angel "I say my dear, may I buy you a drink…"

Bike (Pink Floyd) - YouTube

Surely he would start, "terribly sorry I am so late, can I buy you a drink?" With that twinkle in his eye.

This ^

+1. Gone but not forgotten.

Whenever something really good is done by the forum, as a community, I always remember the rallying around done by a trusted few, and the debt of gratitude us old timers owe them, for being with Paul in his final hours of need.

Rest in peace mister, as you ride with the angels.

Anyone have suggestions/links to good fans for use with turbo? I'd like it to be on a small pedestal or on the floor with the ability to angle it upwards.

Oh hai !

I've been off the bike for a bit, but hope to see you drab wretched people in the morning. I'll be up late waiting for Santa with a bag of coke and some hookers so there is the faint possibility I'll oversleep.

What, another meeting with the FSA?

I thought they were closed 'till New Year...

I was practicing my skid's round there yesterday, they even let me on with riser's on.

They are so helpful. It does not even have to be a fixie.

I thought turning up on this would be a problem but, no sir mister, just mention Rob's name, and they waved me in!

guinness will sort all your problems out.

Never a truer word written.

Stuck in Zurich tonight, I am afraid, so will have to let you good people carry the Guinness flag with pride.

Oh, and big A, hang on to a spare spokie for me, pleeeeassse?

Ha.

Oh, you sharp eyed bar steward..

In like errol

Our leader

The attendees

I think he's suggesting that it would be better to come geared than to not come at all because the distance might be daunting to some on fixed/ss/

Thank you, so correctly and crisply put.

Top man Al, we'll have the team back together for this.

+1. Oh, and I hope Clubmam does not mind me commenting, but I sure he would prefer riders turning up geared, rather than being put off by s/s, and missing out on what is sure to be an amazing day, on the finest of company.