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Thanks for the info. Chas Roberts would be a similar price. FWIW, this is what the frame turns out to be: http://matuzmaster.hu/en/modern-frames/#bianchi
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Thanks. Condor can help - but not for a few weeks as they are booked up for workshop / valuations.
Anyway, it's getting a bit tricky to value. It turns out the frame was almost certainly a Pro Team backup or training frame, like this one (which is by far the most similar frame I've seen in terms of build and details), or possibly a prototype. Bianchi don't seem to know what it is (and don't have the wherewithal to match the serial number to any of their records - they just tell me it is an off-the-peg bike that it quite clearly isn't - totally different geometry, tube sizes, details etc).
So, how do you value a bike that wasn't available for sale in the first place? Any suggestions about who might be able to help? Bike auctioneers? Anyone? Ta, mülletizer.
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Thanks Tallsam. Any suggestions of shops that deal in steel frames who might help? Don't want to go somewhere that'll just quote for replacement with a modern aluminium frame.
They are carbon forks; not planning on putting them to the test - I'm considering turning them into a bog roll dispenser for my throne.
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Thanks, but really, the frame is done for and I don't need a bike shop to tell me it is broken. TT to head weld is partly blown out and there are bends (which have crushed in the tubes) on the head and down tube. It's useless and I would be amazed if it can be repaired. I need some way of getting an accurate value for it that an insurer will accept, or the next best thing: replacement cost of a very light, similar steel frame.
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Long story short, I got nailed head-on by a motorist who didn't give way yesterday. OAPs and cars can be a really bad combination. I think I'm ok - just cuts and bruises - but my bike isn't. One wheel broken, frame badly bent and I'm pretty sure the forks, bars, seatpost and parts of the drivetrain are screwed too.
I've searched the forums about this and couldn't find anything. Basically the motorist says they have already accepted responsibility to their insurers and the insurers will pay out. I need to work out the value of my bike before I speak to them - but it's an unusual bike and not proving easy. And I want good info about values to hand before I speak to them.
Is there anywhere I can take it to get it valued? Or can anyone give me advice on value? Or should I just work on the basis of replacing it with as similar as I can find, modern steel frame? AFAIK that would involve going down the Dave Yates / Chas Roberts route in order to get something similar (open to better suggestions)
FWIW, this is the bike (which I realise fitted me fine and I fell in love with... :( )
The issue is mainly that it's an unusual steel frame. It's Bianchi Reparto Corse badged but thought (by the guy who I got it from, and various others I've spoken to) to either be a in-house custom job for a team rider (more likely) or a bike by another frame-builder that was resprayed for someone contracted to ride Bianchis.
The reason for that thinking is that is has a bunch of details that never appeared on Bianchi retail frames (this according to a former Bianchi dealer - cable configuration, drop outs with threaded stop adjustments, serial number that Bianchi dealers say isn't a normal Bianchi one etc).
Any help / suggestions / advice much appreciated.
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To answer some questions that are coming up:
Measurements: Wheels are 27". 52cm from centre of BB to centre of top tube, measured along the seat tube. Top tub is cm from the centre of the headset to the centre of the seat tube. Rear dropout is 130mm across when measured from the outer sides of the dropouts.
Material: I don't know what alloy of steel it is. No label. Don't think it is anything special.
Age: Assume it is a 70s or 80s frame. Probably 80s.
Dibs: People have asked for dibs, so if you want the bike I'm afraid you'll have to join the queue. I am keen to move the bike ASAP so if you call dibs then don't respond within an hour or two I'll offer it to the next person.
Price: yes, really £35. What, do you want to pay more??
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The boss says it has to go, and as we all know, she's always right. Bought this as a pub bike, never got around to actually using it.
Triumph touring bike. 52cm lugged steel frame, 10 speed. Conditionwise it is pretty good for an old bike. Needs new tubes and tyres, otherwise good to go. Mechanically smooth. Looks as if it has been used very little and has spent most of its life in a dry shed. A few scuffs to the frame but no obvious rust, the rack is rusty and there is some pitting on the rims. Mudguards need tightening - the back one rubs the wheel.
Long (40mm) sloping dropouts mean this would be an easy conversion.
I'm after £35. The bike is in SW11, I'm around days/evenings if you want to see it.
Having issues posting photos, so can email a pic to anyone who's interested. It's red.
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Velocipedist - no problem. My work schedule is pretty hectic, so PM me when would suit you and I will try to figure something out. I work a mixture of mornings, afternoons and evenings.
I think the perspective on those shots must be misleading. But to be sure, this is how I measured the frame: one end of the tape measure in the centre of the BB. Read the size off the other end, level with the hoizontal centre of the top tube, where it meets the seat tube.
Both wheels are running 700C tyres. Can't see any markings on the rims; how would I measure them to verify size? The brake drop is a bit weird, but I think that is because of how the fork is drilled.
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SOLD.
It physically hurts me to post this, but I need to sell my beloved Orbit fixie to fund my new business set up costs.
The Good
English frame, modern classic, a beauty, Reynolds 531 with nice lugs. 54cm BB centre to centre of tt, where it joins down tube. Pretty decent condition - no dents whatsoever, and lovely and light. The old Goldtec Flip Flop hub, Ultegra at the front. No rust (other than slight surface colouring where paint is chipped). Almost new Conti Gatorskin Ultra Ks.The Less Good
Saddle is pretty knackered, and bar tape is looking that way too. Quite a few paint chips, and one scrape - these could be touched up, if you were prepared to spend an afternoon on the bike's cosmetics. Most are on the top tube. BB is marginally wider than ideal, so I run an 8-speed chain (with no issues). To run some chains you might need a narrower BB.The Ugly
Not a period build, and dog ugly fork.
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Other detail**
Mavic Open rims front and back. Truvative Touro cranks. Not sure what the BB is. Tektro R555 front brake. Modern headset (M:PART A:DAPTIVE), ITM stem, aluminium bull horn bars. No drilling for rear brake. Unbranded cage pedals. 48:15/16 ratios.Looking for £175. Based in Battersea. Tyre kickers welcome, but if you want a test ride (and I don't already know you) I will need a deposit. Once bitten, twice shy - not something that went wrong on LFGSS BTW. I am not online every day, so please PM me if interested. Will give her a good clean and tune before sale.
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I also just tried calling Bianchi UK who couldn't help. They suggested it could be a resprayed different frame (ie a fake), or a bike made for a Bianchi sponsored rider then finished in Bianchi colours. I don't think either of those cases is that likely, as it has a Bianchi logo embossed/cast into the BB shell. They also said a production bike from that period would have a serial number on the head tube.
Any ideas?
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Anyone have any idea what this frame is? Steel, the lightest steel bike I've come across, full Bianchi paint job and logo on head tube, 'reparto corse made in Italy' decal. Only markings are '55' (which I have used my massive powers of deduction to establish is also the frame size) and 'D705' both on the BB shell. No serial number except that.
The bloke I bought it from thought it was from around 2000 but didn't know more. He got the frame on eBay. Have looked at a bunch of old BIanchi catalogues, and have Googled extensively, but no info has turned up. Was built up several years after the frame was made so components probably not a lot of help. Anyone able to help please?
Ta.
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No probs - dibs to jazzythumper. But if you realise you aren't going to get here by 4 please let me know. I have to leave at 4 and if I leave and the frame is still here it will almost certainly get recycled as scrap. So, if you can't get it by then I'd rather give dibs to someone else, rather than see it crushed.
yebo - I'd have it off me too, if the Mrs wasn't the sort to go mental when she sees me bring another project bike home...
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I have an Elswick 'Safeway' frame that I need to get rid of today. This is a one day only offer.
The frame is 58.5 from spindle centre to top of seat tube, and around 56cm in the top tube. Sloping drop outs, ripe for fixie/SS conversion. There's a BB, headset and fork, although I have no idea what state the moving parts are in. Frame's got life left in it, shows plenty of wear and some bubbling of paint on the chainstays (so there's probably some rust under the paint, probably not tricky to deal with).
Unfortunately there are some conditions to this. The frame needs to be gone from SW8 (about 5 minutes walk from Vauxhall tube/station) by 4pm today. The bike is 'free' but I'd like a crate of 24 cans of Carlsberg in return. I work for a recycling company, the frame was 'waste' and the beers are so our boys who collect the scrap can have a drink after work. The frame is for someone who wants to build it up, not to sell for a quick buck (bad karma to anyone who abuses this).
Also have a chrome, threaded fork with a boss on going free in return for a a sixpack (or will chuck it in with the Elswick if you get that). Also a couple of hub-gear wheels (haven't looked to hard at them, don't know sizr, or if they work).
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Sounds good. Any idea of nick and price? Where you based?
Edited cos I suddenly regained my ability to read...