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Problem with comparing carbon with steel in terms of toughness is that carbon composites are non uniform in their structure (nor is steel but let not delve into that kettle of fish). I would also assume carbon bikes vary a great deal in their design and how well their manufactured, composites have come on leaps and bounds of late... but i'd still have my money on steel in terms of strength for any odd impacts..
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Surely the whole point of technology and progress is making things better, steel is better than iron, alu is better than steel and carbon is better than alu. If it wasn't, top athletes and professional cyclists would still be riding around the velodrome on penny farthings.
Anyone who can't feel the benefitial differences between a carbon and steel bike must be completely crackers.
Obviously from a pure stiffness and competitive advantage POV your right, but there is a reason I can't abide riding Alu bikes on the road.. ie. that for daily riding they're not as comfortable as steel frames. So for this discussion of steel vs carbon for the road everyones opinion is valid in terms of comfot asthetic price and performance.
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[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Tennis_Professionals"][/url]Association of Tennis Professionals surely,
But in all seriousness, Dalek, Porn, Bohren and der Club of Gore, Monotonix.. it's set to be pretty epic.
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I'm on the sellers side i'm afraid. It's a "conversion" its not got a lock ring, I think thats all that needs saying. The Unipack sellers never bothered to advertise its lack of fixed hub, and that was claiming to be a track bike. I understand you were unhappy with your purchase, and it sounds like the seller was generous in allowing a return. Surely thats enough?
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Nothing on some of the projects above but the Graham Weigh frame has been on the wet roads for a week or so. I've had a bit of difficulty adjusting to the 170mm cranks, if I had the money i'd get some 165's. I'm also not sure about risers, as I like the drops for hills, but I wanted to make it abit different from the Carlton so i'll see how I go. Rusty chain matches foliage.
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Ah, fair cop! as long as your going to experienced people... pearlecent white sounds good, it's quite similar to my frame (www.photosinthedark.com/Personal/Carlton). I've been having trouble finding the cash for a respray!
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Good find snoops, it is very cheap. I might have to get one.