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when speaking to them always ask for Barry (the son and framebuilder) he's very approachable as Ernie (The Guv'nor) can be a bit cantankerous but then he is over 80....modern but traditional hearth brazed steel frames are extremely rare these days, I think they get their top end frames done at Colortech - Erith and the less costly lilac at Mario Vaz's

I visited there pre-make over during the TdF weekend last year, and found him very chatty and approachable. Was gutted when I found out about the price increases, as I quite fancied getting one of their frames.

Post pics when you're done peahead, converted mine in a frenzied two hours on Monday (complete with skinned knuckles which I always seem to get when messing with chainrings). Used the exisiting BB and cranks, lined up pretty much spot on using the inner ring position

Who's that?!

Liz Hatch

When I previously treated rust spots, I've found a reasonably close match, but it doesn't look quite right. Just going to try clear coating over the metal this time as it's a reasonably tatty frame anyway.

Is there much difference between nail varnish and hobby'ists clear coat enamel ?

I'm clearing up a few rust spots on my frame and I can't quite get a good match colour wise for a touch up paint, so will just clear coat on bare metal after removing rust.

How hard wearing is nail varnish ? Most automotive clear coats seem to come in aerosols which isn't ideal for small spots of metal

Genesis Skyline spotted at Solihull hospital

Open Pro if you want a box rim, CXP33 for deep section are readily available from most places and are reasonably cheap.

Ambrosio do some good rims, but are more difficult to get hold of. DT Swiss too, but are more expensive.

Didn't people use to drill pretty much everything a while back ? I wonder why we don't see it so much these days.....

My girlfriend has started riding Conti Supersonics at Newport and loves 'em. GP4000 should be fine though I'd imagine

Remember 26.4 is only the raised bit on the bars that the stem clamps on to, the diameter of the rest of the bars will be less. Not measured it myself, but I'd imagine it would be 25.4 or even less ?

I love stuff like the above.

Training with a fixed on the road is total and utter rubbish. If there was the faintest possible benefit contintental pros would do it - and they don't. Ever

Yes, because we should all train like continental pros. After all, we all have three week long stage races in our racing calendar. Oh, wait....

@ de Selby - Pushing a big gear and spinning a smaller one works different systems in your body. Big gear, low rpm helps build strength while low gear, high rpm helps build speed. Most peoples training would include both I'd imagine, unless you're a TT'er who pushes a stupid dinner plate up front ;)

If you're not in training for anything I wouldn't worry either way, do what feels comfortable.

For those that do use fixed for winter training, what gear do you use ? My commuter is on a 70" at the moment, but It's probably not spinny enough for this time of year

Ta for all the great suggestions - I think I may even have a Carl Perkins LP somewhere. I need to catalogue my vinyl at some point !

No. I was just laboring a point and being a bit nobby .

The original question was about performance, carbon performs better than steel.

It wasn't. It was about why there was so few carbon track frames on the road. In my opinion :-

1. Price
   
2. Lugged steel looks better
   

Diverting the thread slightly, does anyone have Rock 'n Roll recommendations ?

I've got a Chuck Berry comp on vinyl which is aces, where should I go next ?

Erm.. they're not 'fragile' and the performance gains over a 30yo steel track bike are huge.. over a new alu or good steel bike, less so but noticeable.

I road a 50 year old steel road/path frame (complete with clearence for mudguards and pump pegs !) with airlite hubs and fiamme/mavic sprint rims during track league this year. Didn't notice any difference between it and a modern aluminuim track frame, and I don't think I'd notice the difference between it and a Carbon frame.

I'm sure Chris Hoy would flex my poor frame into oblivion, but for a 4th cat chipper like myself there's isn't much of a difference between frames.

yes, cyclists are mugs.

People buying stuff because it looks nice shocka

Ifeel dirty after looking at all that porn

Are there any more pics of this floating around ?

Anyone near Newcastle Under Lyme for the bikes at Velodromes West Mids. hat trick ? Nice bike by the way os r

I'm amazed how much is spent on things because of how they look here

Not just here, try every cycling forum ever

seriously, what is the point of all this stuff apart from looks?

Not a lot, and nothing wrong with that.

I'll be honest - it scared the shit out of me first time I road it, and that was after eight months riding on a outdoor velodrome every week ! One thing that'll take you be surprise is the G you pull going 'round the bottom of the banking at speed.

You'll be find after a few laps though ;)

It's not that hard really, make sure you buy the correct tools and don't under/over tighten stuff !

Just got an email about the 3 top deal for £90. So, as my polyester base layers have a smell that would offend the dead, I bought them.

Don't think that's a bad price for 3 merino base layers.Got a mix of long and short sleeve.

Pro tip - washing cycling clothing after you've sweated in it removes the smell

Hi all, and thanks for letting me join RPM

I ride at Aldersley in Wolverhampton most weeks, track bikes during the summer and road bikes during the winter

@Edscoble - The Sugino Messenger is the RD2 crank though, no ? Lot cheaper than a 75 crank