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there's someone you can trust - provenrad. Someone You Can Trust.

You certainly have proven rad this time, provenrad. provenrad flies off over pantheons to commerce

oh asm and I thought you knew I was trying to lure you into saying your real name!

oh dear. eh who's peter though?

anyway I might change my forum name, too many twa's round here (there's a comeback to that one..) might not seem like such a bad day in light of this little exchange..

I'll be paranoid as fock come Monday, you'll see. I like the descent in a shower of glass idea - it would be a fair descent though as I'll be on about the sixteenth floor of one of those mighty pantheons to commerce you get round there.

another thread unravels, frighteningly quickly in this case and much at my own hand.

you're not sleepy enough to rise to my bait however....Andrew...

like the old carrie fisher starwars blooper...HBMF!

First off, apologies Andrew.

Shinscar WTF is this...a rare clue?

look it was very very early in the morning for me. let's call the whole thing off. Anyone who can offer hope rather than Shinscar's gleeful panicmongering, please pm me if you can be ringed, I will be very grateful.

I am aware I have just posted one of the dumbest threads of all time.

Shinscar you rumbled me already... er no no red herring, this is a real thread which now looks rather silly. I'll trust noone knows what the CS looks like outside the forum.. I've a feeling anyone lurking with intent will be in for a nasty disappointment...

jeez Ray now I really have to find another lockup point....you are either an angel or a devil. Or both, you saucy wench..

cheers Sano, yeah the CS comes nowhere near your Bob, I think I've just got a bit paranoid these last few weeks reading all the lock nightmares / nicked bike threads.. I roll a D lock and a kryptonite hoop both of which will be coming into play for what that's worth..

anyway time to stop grinding my own thread to a halt here...

sorry - want to make it clear this is just a request for knowledge of any* better* places in the immediate area than this Next/Sainsbury joint - not trying to make my bike invincible, not saying "if it gets nicked I'll blame you", of course not, well aware you takes your chances wherever you are. Maybe someone who works daily round there and has to lock up on the street too? Maybe pm me?

Thanks again.

So, sorry for a rather dull thread of a Friday morning but would be grateful for any knowledge - turns out I am working in "The City" next week, which I'm sure you can imagine is traumatic enough for me what with my suitophobia, but just been told the place I'll be skulking around on Fenchurch Street has no off-street bike lock-up. Apparently I lock up by Next/Sainsbury's..On The Street....

Now is this a wise location to lock up for eight unsupervised hours a day or is the CS, despite dissuasive modifications and certainly not looking as loved as it is, gonna get nicked? Should I take my black "hybrid" (everybody:eeurrrrgh) and, godwilling, that will get nicked? Or is there a much more secure place very very close (walking feels strange these days)?

Thanks most kindly for any help. Please don't start 'avin a laff and recommending for example a sapling by a borstal, I just want to do whatever is possible not to gets me lovely bike stolen and a bit nervous about leaving it outside work where I can't hear its screams of panic..cheers :)

PJS where the hell are you, you've only got gears, charlatan.

Don't start this dudes, I'm just getting myself off geared and into the wunnerful world of fixed. Don't tell me being a roadie is the new big thing, I thought I was "on trend".

Steak and Guinness. London Marylebone.

I think one of them rolls with a flipflop.

I think it proves that if you concentrate on your phonecall too much you end up steppin in a dog turd..

(originally spotted by someone else in Tynan's post but always creases me way past enjoying Jan and the taxis..)

Cool Roxy - all I can do is speak for myself and where I'm coming from, don't represent noone but meself. I'm not trying to wade into someone else's argument, just contributing to a discussion. I'm totally +1ing a lot of what you're saying.

But I think it's a shame you girls have this extra, undergound, forum (I've heard about it before, late at night under cover of darkness and drink..); it's cool you have one for closer buddies or whatever and, as Trixiechix, bonds must have been formed that many of the guys haven't yet enjoyed; but it's fairly rare these days to read new posts from many of the female members and it seems from this thread that, for some, it's because they don't get along with the male-centric vibe they perceive here.. in a sense surely the only way to work on turning that round is from within and post, rather than comment in a break-off forum? Is it that bad that you've given up? If the answer's yes it's a real pity cos you ain't representin' yourselves!!

I thought this forum was about fixed/ss enthusiasts first and foremost and that may be why people post exactly what they want to, rather than having some gender/self-conscious scenario where suddenly people are thinking about "pulling" and then everyone starts saying whatever will get them in someone's pants, which would be hideous surely..? I'm pretty sure most dick/gay/blowjob/tits etc. jokes are usually said in absolutely the silliest of moods, yes childish but not with an agenda. Maybe some of the gay guys on the forum (there must be some) find some comments offensive, and some people might just find stuff offensive cos they're not into it. But it's not just about boys versus girls is it...? Everyone's responsible for their posts and everyone else can think they're a dick/twat off the back of them if they so wish, you don't have to be passive about it, even passive-aggressive.

I've only met four or five forum girls, at drinks (I haven't been around too long, I lurked online for ages) - and Clefty seems to be one of the few who post regularly apart from yourself Roxy (I read your accident checklist some time ago and it helped me no end the other week when I wrapped it on Clerkenwell Rd..) The fact that pseudonyms afford some degree of anonymity means gender is less obvious - but gender should also therefore be less important than the poster's content and views; even so, it's really lame if the female take on shit isn't getting posted up because females believe they'll be seen as "moaning girls" if they voice any objections they have.

Some things aren't really suited to a bike forum but last night I think I was trying to ease the heat with a bit of (possibly bewilderingly inarticulate) self-deprecation when you said something about there being no men left who were bold and graceful. Though I wouldn't have quantified it in those terms I got what you were saying and I felt, while I understood you were pissed off about the generalisations being made about women, your comment generalised about men in the same way... I think there might be some on here who can have a laugh at a magazine story about a "fixed gear gal" for its intrinsic silliness and how the "fixed gear" argot has become appropriated to lend a contemporary authenticity to a very tired old genre - who at the same time are quite able to dig that fucking up against a dumpster covered in bike innards could be hot so long as it wasn't a prerequisite - and are still pretty much only on here to geek off about bikes and are a bit surprised to find it all getting a bit gender-specific..

It's late, I'm not working today, I'm only writing all this cos it has interested me quite a lot and you took the time to write quite a bit yourself Roxy. Sorry if I'm coming across as a tremendous bore and far too opinionated for my brief time on the forum.. it's this or late night radio phone-ins...:)

sounds good man

you are far more likely to be right than me, I have no idea what I'm doing.. it would be going on a road frame conversion anyway - you may even have seen the bike at South drinks..

ok the rub I guess is looking for a truvativ bb. I could do with the crank into its own in the next week; I like the sound of it being suitable for a rougher bike but i take it it's still basically in decent nick if it was on your bob jackson. I'm getting really annoyed at still not finishing this conversion... so any idea what the quickest route to a truvativ isis is? would the be an lbs stocking it? Sorry for the questions dude, just presume you'll know if you've already been using it..

okay pj I may well be up for those, I guess the obvious question is how much would an isis bb cost and how easy are they to come by? My frame bb spacing is 70mm by the way if this makes any sense.. if you'd like to pm me feel free

so last night I'm in bed with my Reynolds frame.....

jeez this thread's heated up since last night 'annit, and not in a saucy heated-up way, more in a Kilroy kind of a way. Guys and gals....

I doubt DD Vanderbilt had any idea of the incendiary he/she was unleashing when he/she wrote what ostensibly is something light for the erogenous zones. I'm not being sexist here: I dig that it's probably written specifically for women. I agree that it doesn't seem to push the buttons male soft porn tales do (I haven't read any since I was about 15 so I wouldn't know where it has progressed to in the wake of the internet changing everything in Britain). Interestingly those stories were about women being sluts and I found it all massively arousing, even more so if "the woman" was the narrator; I'm not sure why the girl in this story is being tagged as a slag in the posts, she just seems to be having a super-quickie to me in a situation which is a bit rude.

It's interesting that the writer comes up with a character that will hopefully stand for enough of the cool modern feminist ethos to eschew the female readership it is aimed at thinking, "ruddy hell, this girl's a slapper". If the girl's opening paragraph was about how she worked on a checkout in KwikSave and was just on her way home after the Bingo and ended up having a quick one behind a skip I'm not sure the female readership's responses would be the same. It's all cleverly worked stuff, erotic fiction.

So the reason why I was laughing at it all yesterday was because I didn't think it was written very well at all; I dig this is a subjective response and is based on my own reading tastes and probably generic familiarity. For example, the imagery of "flaccid" tubes, pumping things etc. etc. reminds me of old Viz stories and yep indeed cheap newsagent wankmags; I've always cracked up at single entendres, I genuinely adore them. Then language like "those soily fingers navigate my swell" is, I'm sorry, just hilariously bad and generically classic. So I don't think it's well-written at all myself - if you found it deeply arousing then cool. However, I think that's why most people were creasing at it, not cos boys think girls are stupid or people were thinking you must be just a dumb girl to think it's hot. I also think some girls will have read it and thought it was dumb too.

I'm enjoying this thread loads just because I'm interested in people breaking out of the bike chat, I'm not taking the piss out of anyone or trying to knock anyone and I don't think you'll find any sexist posts from me on the forum, I'm here for bike chat and a bit of banter and I haven't been visible long enough to have slanging matches.

I'm a bit concerned that oily fingers grappling with a condom would render it inneffective against STDs and pregnancy, mind.

And, no Brendan, it was Phil's name I'd forgotten in the haze.

one of the most astounding sets I've heard in recent years Chris. I loved Brendan writing the tunes down too. Find any yet skoota? ;)

Say hi and thanks to Simon from me dude, that was an extra treat.

@ rik: dude you asked about the Rossin I mentioned. It was this one I was talking about. Still two days on ebay, I thought it was very nice and still do but can't buy it. But maybe by the time you read this you have a new Moser, hmmmm? ;)

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I'd like to second cranks offer

I used to be indecisive, but now... I'm not so sure.

aaaaarrrrrmm.......

jeez Brian, that's looking sweeet.

what are you thinking pricewise for the cranks pj?

would they be a good investment for a while or a make-do-for-a-bit?

cheers