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Cove have some great names for their bikes. Handjob is my favourite:)

Haha! Class! Im sure Cippolini was a fiend for the tabs? I may be wrong though.

I may be being plain stupid, but what the hell is laser therapy for stopping smoking?

If you dont stop they laser cut ypur fingers off so you cant smoke! hehe!

Not at all mate. It works on the same points as acupuncture. It apparentlty releases endorphins reducing the anxious state you can get into when you are craving nicotene.

Mostly around my wrists and fingers nose ears etc It made me feel really relaxed didnt think about the ciggys at all.
It was £120.00 and you can go for as many sessions as you feel you need.

Its probably the single biggest thing you can do to improve your overall fitness in my opinion

Agree. I stopped 18 months ago. I smoked cigarettes for 15 years and dope for 10 years. My circulation was becoming very bad. I loved smoking tbh. But its not good for your health or your ability to get the miles in.

I used laser therapy, it worked for me I had tried everything else, nrt, hypnotherapy, acupuncture, Allen Carr, not the comedian etc.

Makes you feel great being a non smoker.

Merak, did you buy that online/build it up from frame only? Doesn't look like usual UK spec.

I'll hopefuly be getting one of these at the end of the month but the UK campy only builds means expensive chains + cassettes:-(

I got it from www.epic-cycles.co.uk

I basically chose the frame and fork and specified EVERYTHING else myself.They build it up and send it to you, which is the way it should be imo.

You can have whatever you want. Would have loved Campag chorus but bank balance says no.

Its Ultegra SL I opted for.

Very helpful people, top notch service.

Cannot recommended highly enough.

i was out on the mtb today. at peaselake village stores having a cup of tea when 4 london dynamo riders (road) stopped to buy something in the shop, one of them in a very loud voice said:
"it smalls of cowshit round here, it must be the mountainbikers"

this is the reason i will never join a club they are usually full of tossers.

True. But there are tossers all walks of life. I agree that road cycling seems to attract a particularly high number of elitist arse - pieces.

ok I saw this bike yesterday in cycle surgery. it costs £2300. Merak, are you telling us that you spent £2300 on a road bike and now aren't sure if it's the right size?

Fred,

I didn't say it wasn't the right size. I was referring to the stand over height. After all I have an inch and a bit between my crown jewels and the top tube.

My stumpjumper is like a womans bike in terms of geometry, my Giant compact is similar, a really steep slope on the top tube. The Wiler has not so much slope, agreed its far from traditional track frame geometry but its NOT a compact frame you will know this as you have seen it.

I did 80k on it on Saturday and it felt really good. I summoned up the courage to cut the steerer tonight too my arse was making chocolate buttons throughout though, took it really easy got a 5mm spacer above the stem for fine adjustment.

The point of my original post was to ask what kind of clearance should there be when standing over a bike that is not compact that was all.

Cheers :)

Closet MTBers:

1. Tynan
   
2. Provenrad
   
3. Roberto
   
4. Object (Bassett's)
   
5. Sammy
   

6. Merak

7. pj (that's mr ventoux to you, hippo) (pj)

8. mouse

9. bmmf

10. wayne [team catering, motivational coach]

11. andyp

12. platini

13. fatboyralph

14. haj

15. .5 of 50/14 (2 fixed, 2 road. Might change though)

16. Tommid[/quote]

17. rjs

18. wintermute

19. brett

20. kipsy

21. sonicboom! (i have a road bike for time trials & long distance riding)

22. fred

23. dewi

24. casp

25. hurricane run

26. VB

27. Object (if he gets to his next build)

28. hippy (DNS)

29. ScotNottScott (When he eventually leaves the house and goes to see Roberto)

30. mr_tom (As soon as I can get this fscking Campy chain closed)

31. Sammy

32. Merak (Im a roadie and mtb'er:))

When I said traditional geometry I meant that the top tube doesn't slope.

Its pretty straight which feels a bit alien at the moment. I'm sure Ill get used to it.

Im over fixed, I'm bringing back road bikes!! HaHa!

I can clear the top tube.

It just feels strange not having a couple of inches clearance.

New bike;

I just wanted to ask about geometry. It relates to traditional rather than compact or sloping top tube frames so I figured you people would know best.

I know its all relative to the individual, and fit of frames differ from person to person.
I have ridden compact road bikes including the ubiquitous Langster for the last few years.

I recently bought a bike with a more traditional frame, the top tube is nearly horizontal.My ball sack brushes the top tube when standing astride it. The fit of if is very good when riding though 55.5 top tube and 56 bb to top of seat lug.

I am 5'11 33 leg.

Is the standover an issue? Is this common with more traditional geometry bikes? Does you bike compare?

Thanks for any feedback.

I couldn't give a fuck if this is a re-post :)

The best ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UZjXy25Y­3Q&feature=related

Will come in original box, with microfibre bag and soft case. In bright pink with unmarked smoked path lens.

£80 posted.

This thread is useless without pics.

Now I'm feeling (pseudo)homesick.

Anyone ever made it up Scot st by the art school riding fixed?

Good one. I would like to see that, or north Garner street in Partick. :)

Im in Glasgow too.

You.... crazy guys.:)

I can't see the pictures either.

Lovely brown carpet btw.

Its a throw, you ignorant fool! :)

Cant you see the pics?

They are Pilots.

In excellent condition smoked lens yellow frames. Oakley wording intact on lens. Sweat pad long gone but still in lovely nick.

Over 20 years old.

£35.00 BARGAIN!

Thanks alot for advice. I will try the 15 through the summer and see how I get on.

I appreciate what you are saying regarding the smaller cog at the back. I dont have a burning desire to go quicker just to have my legs turn a little slower. This may be the ideal solution.

I also appreciate the off the peg bikes have the 42-16 ratio for a reason, research must say this is the ideal gear for most people, indeed you have agreed thats the case. I like the gear just dont like spinning like a madman!

Thanks again.

Merak, I'm in Glasgow too, so listen to me instead of these bloody Cockneys who ride about on roads designed with a spirit level. Fixed wheel is probably so popular in London cos there are no hills to coast down anyway. :-P

I'm on 41:16 - which isn't a million miles away from what you're using - and that ratio seems just about right to me. You may spin out often, but at least you won't have to plan your route to accommodate the gear.

There are hills here that would be unmanageable on a bigger ratio. I can think of plenty of traffic lights in the town centre where, on longer gear inches, I wouldn't be able to get the bike moving from a standing start.

I suppose you should consider the wind too, especially if you cycle alongside the Clyde for any sort of distance. It's brutal down there. How did you get on in Friday's gusts? It can be like that for weeks during winter and you REALLY notice it when you don't have the option of shifting down a gear.

By all means, try what the other guys say and use a 15-tooth cog for a while. Just don't go totally daft and swap to some sort of Obree-esque macho monster gear, cos I think you're pretty close to the ideal right now. Of course, it's down to personal preference, riding style and where you're likely to be cycling too, and you'll know much more about that than me.

Just out of interest, what are you riding? I'll keep my eyes peeled for you.

Your talking sense there.

I dont really have major problems with the 42-16 i like it when its rolling but I agree with you, the inclines in and around the city are 'difficult' I do my best to avoid them!

I just find Im spinning out for example riding down Queen Margaret drive legs are a blur! But by the same token if Im tired I struggle away from the lights. What you say about being close to the right gear, I would agree with that.

I think I will try the 15 at the back. Incidentally I do travel along the Clydeside yesterday was savage in the wind, today is not much better but at leat the suns out!

I ride a Langster green with red tyres.

Thanks for your advice.

teeth on the back makes a bigger difference than teeth on the front.

I didn't know that. I thought that more teeth on the big ring would have made more of a difference. I think I will try a 17 tooth cog on the back.

Thanks for your help.

Use this: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/

Set it to gear inches, play with the numbers, see what you get. higher numbers = harder pedalling
This way you can work how much your gearing will change dependant on what bits you change.

That's great, thanks alot.

What's the deal with the Spock picture?

Is it the done thing to change the rear cog rather than your chain ring? I don't have a clue tbh.

I do know that the 42-16 feels a little small though, does just one tooth make a big difference?

Thanks for your help.