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nope- I see why they appeal to so many people....well made, can't see any accidental unclips happening etc....but my knees are a bit shot and the SPDs just work better for me. each to their own and all that...mind you, reason I changed is the bearings failed on my M520 spds after 3 years so for durability they're a bit shite compared ot the more solid ATACs
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will sell or trade for Shimano PD-M540.
New, used for the last few days but just don't on with 'em - too difficult to disengage for my dodgy knees so want to go back to SPDs.
The ROCs are £43 on wiggle at the moment in a 20% off deal. Will sell for £30 if that sounds realistic but ideally i'd like to swap for some M540s - used or will pay the difference.
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I hoping I find the knack soon then kowalski!
see what you're saying messenjah on the 13 vs 17 - ive got em on 13 - didnt help that the soles of my shoes were blocking release so i've just carved some sole away which has helped a bit. Seems weird though that you need to be so careful about which shoes work with ATAC pedals - despite cutting the soles they're still not perfect and it means the soles no longer protect the cleats when I walk - have you got any recomendations for MTB shoes that work well with ATAC ROC's? cheers again...really need the advice otherwise I'm gonna have to ditch these and go back to SPDs....in which case look for these soon in the classieds/swap thread!
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It helps if you push down with your toes a bit so the back of the cleat moves in a bigger arc, rather than twisting around the centre of the cleat.
i.e. only your heel should move outwards rather than a bit outwards at the heel and a bit inwards at the toe.
Does that make sense?
yeah, cheers - once I read it for the third time anyway! will give it a go tomorrow :-)
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Which is what makes them more secure! The cleats wear in a bit which eases things up after a week or two.
reviving this thread it's exactly about my problem - just fitted ROC but man are they difficult to disengage from....makes sense what you're saying about them wearing in after a couple of weeks but how do i stop myself from falling over each time I can't unclip..which is pretty much every time at the moment!
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prototype:
hippy
lucky
dt
rik (I like to sound of it, but I will like to see one finish first)
hassan (thought not on any original list for a bag, the rucsack sounds really good)
rocksteady (the fixed mag prize bag)
TheBrick(Tommy) but leave me for a few months minimum bit as I am broke.
dogsballs (you're welcome ya whinger)
seb_pfregular:
social amnesia - daddy mack + new smaller rucksack
broker - ninja
+imMe - never made my mind up on size
hassanr - flpower straps (keeping the grobag theme :) )
dancing james - stripped down medium sized bag
edscoble - theo
JDB - theo
hamster - archie
spaghoops - a ninja please
daccordi - ninja please
bombadil - archie please
rg37:Theo please + some flpower straps would be nice :)
Skully - Archie was the original request but tempted by talk of new rucsac...
livingasleep - Ninja
yeh731 - Ninja (but am also interested in the new products...)
Casp - Archie as original order.
Mdizzle -Would love a back pack....
Nahguavkire - Model TBC (Archie or Ninja most likely)
Davey C- Theo, artwork has been discussed.
Wibble - A Mashton would be lovely
kelvin - small backpack please
geoffersmaher- that mashton plese thanking you
dee Cal - not on original, but archie and poss an Addie too. 'mazin!
Kam - Ninja (last i heard you were minutes away from finishing it - not sitting in the corner is it)?
Gralegav - ninja, pretty please!
Polybikeuser - already down for two Ninjas (one's for my brother) and you can add me to the list for one of the new smaller rucksacks to replace my stolen courier bag - I'll start working on getting the embroidery for it now!
Balki - ninja or archie. Would like to have a look before deciding
Cornelius Blackfoot - paid for an archie and a theo (way back in the day when Scott was practically giving them away) got the archie - which is the smaller one I think, then changed the theo to a ninja, but now really need something bigger than a small timbuk, but smaller than the archie I already own. Hope thats not too confusing. you already have my embroidery design.
PinkGottiMobbs - Can I put my name down for a Mashton please.
CrazyJames - Theo/Archie and possibly a ninja hip as well, would like to try them on though to make sure of comfort/fit etc.
A1astair - would like to see in the flesh but probably a theo.. also, are you still doing the power-grip-alikes at all? If so, then I'd love a black pair of them with 3m, if possible?
Ved - ninja please.
PinkGottiMobbs - Archie, All Black with pink inside. Cheers
Bobs Dids- provisional small backpack order. Details to follow!
chatters - Addie please (it looks the business)
whatfriends - archie. colour to be confirmed. thanks.[report](http://www.londonfgss.com/report.php?p=498708) [comment](http://www.londonfgss.com/reputation.php?p=498708) -
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prototype folks:
Hippy
lucky
dt
rik (I like to sound of it, but I will like to see one finish first)
hassan (thought not on any original list for a bag, the rucsack sounds really good)regular:
social amnesia - daddy mack + new smaller rucksack
broker - ninja
+imMe - never made my mind up on size
hassanr - flpower straps (keeping the grobag theme :) )
dancing james - stripped down medium sized bag
edscoble - theo
JDB - theo
hamster - archie
spaghoops - a ninja please
daccordi - ninja please
bombadil - archie please
rg37:Theo please + some flpower straps would be nice :)
Skully - Archie was the original request but tempted by talk of new rucsac...
livingasleep - Ninja
yeh731 - Ninja (but am also interested in the new products...)
Casp - Archie as original order.
Fresh - Not on original list but would like a mashton.
Mdizzle -Would love a back pack....
Nahguavkire - Model TBC (Archie or Ninja most likely)
Davey C- Theo, artwork has been discussed.
Superprecise - awaiting look at range.
Wibble - A Mashton would be lovely
kelvin - small backpack please
seb_pf - addie backpack if I maygotta be the best looking/built cycling backpack there is
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One of these jackets, one of these base layers, some of these tights, pair of these gloves, a pair of 3/4 lengths, a wool hat and I'm as snug as the proverbial bug. But my nose and eyes have to take the pain.
hello squire - how do the sealskinz gloves size up? I'm usually M but in Gore gloves I'm an L so want to order the right ones.
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nice one cheers - know what you mean about the looks though - bit school satchell-esque! prefer the more-rounded aesthetics of yours. Why do your bags have to be so damn fucking good, it makes buying anything else feel like such a half-hearted compromise ;-)