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I have a beautiful previous generation Air king , with Box and papers.....

Me obviously........

I have one of these for cheeps

I am not getting involved in the whole Grand Seiko debate again......

I'd be more concerned about the obsessive journey tracking than looking odd wearing two watches!!

BURN THE HERETIC !!

It is really lovely, and in stunning condition for age.
The info you provided backs up exactly what I discovered.
Watchfinder have 2 16800 not triple zero and neither have papers and both are sitting at £9k. which is a premium over the even very slightly later replacement.
I am torn now about sitting on it , but have an Apollo 17 Speedmaster on order and cant really afford that let alone both.

oooh you go away for five minutes after posting and theres loads of chat when you get back.
The 168000 Submariner was bought in for stock so will be for sale, have two people coming in today.
Got to keep the wolf from the door ..........

Any serious Rolex geeks out there?
Just bought in a very rare Submariner.
model ref 168000 only made for 6 to 9 months. Really lovely condition, and ALL bits and pieces , box papers and even the little anchor thingy.
1988

Tricross not covered in mud, or upside down with rider in puddle.

Bargain!! They about £1600 now. Lovely watch, thinking of one of those myself.

Longines Hydroconquest

What he says above . Except for the part about looking nice. or comparing with other brands on a technical level.
But yes buy what you like.
( And I can get you a Grand Seiko if you want one)
They just don't look .........special.

That's a beautiful watch , I had a Gold Tangente limited edition that I sold. And I regret it every day.

For me resale etc is just the icing on the cake.
Knowing you can wear something every day and enjoy and it will still be holding it's value if you do want to unload it / part ex against something else, is a great feeling.

A 5% drop in value in the seiko is purely hypothetical. Try and sell it.
It will be worth what someone is prepared to pay you for it.
I had a client who wanted to part ex a recently purchased Grand Seiko against an Omega aqua terra day date. I said no as after I asked about nobody would even bid me ANYTHING on it. And I was the third or fourth Omega stockist who had turned him away.

So that's not one I can get in Argos or H samuel ? ( you just messin' with me now aint ya)

sorry this.

For all of you other Brand Junkies I bought this in pre owned today. Very lovely Explorer 2 box and papers from 2015.

Sorry but a massive over generalization. I deal with a lot of collectors who certainly don't buy on "Vanity" , but in some cases pay an extraordinary amount of money for something old and almost battered . None of my or any of my counterparts in any of our other showrooms have anybody who collect Seiko .
People don't buy Omega just because it's an Omega, they buy it for what the brand heritage represents. There's a lot of love on here for moonwatch and thats a great deal less flashy than any of the Grand seiko I have seen of late.
As for investment potential, Fucking hell don't make me laugh.
I'm with Senor_Bear on this .

A 5K Rolex will still retain most if not all its value or in some cases make money over time. You wont be able to give a 3K seiko away.

But I bet if you spend £2600 and something goes wrong I bet you will still expect your local AD to sort out under your "warranty" and get pissed when they don't want to know 'cos it's come from somewhere as shady AF. And none of us need inherit somebody else's problem. For no money.